Archive for January, 2021

The Trump Putsch 01

January 9, 2021

There are many things that can be said about yesterdays ‘insurrection’ at the US Capitol building. These are some of them.

Rough Timeline: Firstly the protestors started knocking the fences down at about 1:00 p.m. At about 1.20 Trump arrives back at the White House – some say his security detail said they could not protect him at the protest. He watches the riot on live TV. 1:34 pm Mayor Bowser of Washington, DC requests assistance from Secretary of Army. About 1.40 demonstrators break into the House. The Senate and House chambers were evacuated at 2:30 p.m, about the same time the Washington Mayor orders a 6pm Curfew. At about 3.40pm the National Guard arrives (?). Crowds start dispersing around 5 pm. About 8 pm, Capitol police declared the building secure. At 8.15 pm the House starts working again.

1) “Trump Media”

Parts of the Trump media and media groupings (One America Network, Parler, 4 chan, Q-Anon, Brietbart, Newsmax), after supporting Trump’s fake claims of election fraud, and calls for insurrection, are now saying things like “we all know Republicans don’t riot, consequently the rioters were not Republicans and the whole thing was a false flag operation”. The rioters were busloads of Antifa.

There is no evidence of antifa involvement and, even if there was, it does not give us new evidence about who was calling for the events, and who was cheering the events on. This includes those who are now claiming they had nothing to do with it, which appears to include those Republican members of Congress who were trying to overturn the election results, while depending on the election results for their own seats.

This is simple cowardice. Childlike cowardice. They could say, “I made a mistake and don’t like the results of that mistake,” or they could stand with the people they encouraged. But these people decide to hide their encouragement of violence behind blaming their opposition, or saying they suddenly came to understand what Trump was like.

By trying to blame others they at least show they recognise there is a problem they don’t want to be associated with. Interestingly even the leader of the Proud Boys supposedly announced ahead of the march:

“We will not be wearing our traditional Black and Yellow. We will be incognito and we will spread across downtown DC in smaller teams,… And who knows….we might dress in all BLACK for the occasion [like Antifa],” Mr. Tarrio posted on the social media service Parler. “The night calls for a BLACK tie event.”

Proud Boys leader says members will be ‘incognito’ for next pro-Trump protest in D.C. Washington Times, 29 December 2020

We can presume they wanted to hide and not be held responsible, although Tarrio later apparently said or wrote: “Proud Of My Boys and my country….”Don’t ****ing leave.”

Those who need to know, know they were involved.

2) Trump himself

From the wandering speech made directly before the riots, it is not clear what Trump wants, except to complain that he could not have lost because of statistics and fake claims, and that Mike Pence could fix it up by decree. [See endnote].

During the riots. Trump tweeted [Times on these tweets are from storage and not local times, the one immediately below is apparently from 2.24 pm during the riots.]:

More or less immediately after the Riots, Trump tweeted:

[And in case the tweet copy gets deleted:

These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!

twitter Jan 6 – see also Fox News and Forbes

So Trump defended his supporters for a while. Trump later claimed that violence was not what he wanted and that we should seek peace together.

My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly and seamless transition of power.

This moment calls for healing and reconciliation…..

We must revitalize the sacred bonds of love and loyalty that bind us together as one national family.

Donald Trump Concedes Election, Condemns Rioters Video Speech Transcript January 7. Rev 7 January

Trump has never seemed to want peace before, other than the peace of everyone submitting to himself. It is however, reasonably possible to suggest that he did not think his speech would be followed by the events which followed it; that, for him, the march on the Capitol was purely a game for him. However it is equally possible he deliberately tried to engineer deniability, and he will keep feeding and inciting rage, while pretending not to.

Personally I think he is stabbing his supporters in the back because he does not want to loose the benefits and salary of an ex-President if he should be suspended or impeached, but who knows? Anyway, the point again is he could say, “I made a mistake and I’ve changed my mind”, or he could stand by his supporters and what he has been encouraging them to do since the last election or earlier, or even say he was surprised at how people reacted, but no, its all their fault. I suspect he will soon be telling us it was all the Democrats’ fault. For Trump, it seems like it is always someone else’s fault.

For those who wonder if the President would throw his supporters, workers and creditors under the bus, for personal advantage, just look at his career. This is what he has done his entire life. This and continuous falsehood, are his distinguishing marks, even for people in politics and business.

He has also refused to attend the inauguration. This is one way of making peace… but attending would show that he might put his own resentments on one side, and thus encourage his followers to do so as well – but that would not give him any political advantage, he needs to keep hatred going to have any chance of influence or another shot at the Presidency.

While so far it is rumour and third hand reports, so this paragraph will possibly be changed, there is some evidence to say that:

  • Trump watched the riot on live TV (was there live TV coverage?)
  • He did tweet about Mike Pence’s failure to steal the election for him
  • He ignored calls from Republicans trapped in the House
  • He only tweeted against the riots when it was clear they had not achieved any of their aims, beyond occupation.

If so, then we may assume that Trump did seek violence to change the election result and intimidate people in the House.

Mitch McConnell is reported as saying, after he helped acquit Trump,:

There’s no question, none, that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day… The people who stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their president… He did not do his job. He didn’t take steps so federal law could be faithfully executed and order restored… No. Instead, according to public reports, he watched television happily — happily — as the chaos unfolded… Even after it was clear to any reasonable observer that Vice President Pence was in serious danger.

Sprunt After Voting To Acquit, McConnell Torches Trump As Responsible For Riot. NPR 13 Feb 2021

What Trump does not appear to have done is even more significant. He did nothing to help organise a response. He did nothing to calm the situation down. He appears to have made no protest against what was happening while it was happening – and this is especially notable if he was watching on live TV.

It does not seem unreasonable to see Trump’s first public comments on Jan 12, as directed towards his riotous supporters as they defend the wall with Mexico, which seems to be a defense against illegal immigrants and emphasises the race issue. “We completed the wall,” he says which does not seem to be true, and he more or less admits is not true in the next line “They may want to expand it. We have the expansion underway.” But then:

We’re stopping a lot of illegal immigration. Our numbers have been very good. There does seem to be a surge now because people are coming up. So caravans are starting to form because they think there’s going to be a lot in it for them, if they’re able to get through, but we’re able to stop it

Donald Trump’s First Comments Since Capitol Riots: Says He Wants “No Violence”, Rev.com 12 January 2021

Then he implies the violence is against him, and that impeachment could lead to violence:

we want no violence, never violence. We want absolutely no violence. And on the impeachment, it’s really a continuation of the greatest witch hunt in the history of politics. It’s ridiculous. It’s absolutely ridiculous. This impeachment is causing tremendous anger as you’re doing it. And it’s really a terrible thing that they’re doing. For Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to continue on this path, I think it’s causing tremendous danger to our country and it’s causing tremendous anger. I want no violence.

Donald Trump’s First Comments Since Capitol Riots: Says He Wants “No Violence”, Rev.com 12 January 2021

And the riot had nothing to do with him, all the fault of other people:

if you look at what other people have said, politicians at a high level, about the riots during the summer, the horrible riots in Portland and Seattle and various other places. That was a real problem, what they said, but they’ve analyzed my speech and my words and my final paragraph, my final sentence. And everybody to the T thought it was totally appropriate. 

Donald Trump’s First Comments Since Capitol Riots: Says He Wants “No Violence”, Rev.com 12 January 2021

His later speech was almost entirely about keeping illegal aliens out, and could be seen as a shout out to the ‘mob’. So he will almost certainly continue.

3) The Really Thin Blue Line

The Capitol was badly defended. There were hardly any police, and the national guard was not called in until way too late – apparently a guy Trump appointed to the job refused to let them be called in. In Washington DC the mayor does not command the National Guard, the President does. The guard eventually arrived because Republican and Democrat members of the house arranged it? (This is all very complicated, but see this timeline, which may or may not be accurate. The then chief of the Capitol Police, Steven Sund, “says he requested assistance six times ahead of and during the attack on the Capitol. Each of those requests was denied or delayed”). Trump tried to take credit for their arrival, but this does not seem to be accurate.

Many people ([1], [2], [3], [4] more could be given) have compared the thin lines of police with the heavy lines of police who faced Black Lives Matter protestors. and who seemed relaxed about using heavy violence to control and clear BLM protestors even if it was just for Presidential photo-ops. The police for the Trump protest seem to have been vastly outnumbered and under armed – I’ve seen videos of a few US police trying to hold back protestors with waist high portable fences, fists (!?) and no back-up. They had no hope against these white rioters.

I also read that 60 police where hospitalised with injuries and one police officer more or less definitely received deadly injuries from a thrown fire extinguisher. Video suggests one policeman was pulled down some stairs and beaten and kicked. One of the people beating him was using a flag pole with a US flag on it, and the crowd shouted “USA, USA”. Comments by Police Chief Contee also suggest rioters used pepper spray on the police. The police were not initially using tear gas and some had no gas masks. Pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails were also apparently found near the building outside the Republican National Committee and Democratic National Committee [5], [6].

This is where supporting people who claim to support the police, while they are suppressing others, gets you.

4) Police Complicity?

Some people say the police let the rioters in, and posed with rioters for selfies. This could be a cunning way of both getting photo ID of the perps, and/or avoiding being beaten up. There are pictures of police (or security guards) quietly standing by as occupiers walk past them. Perhaps some police where more gentle than people on the Left might expect them to be from their experience, and got out of the way, but this is not the same as deliberately letting people in.

If there was an inside job, it probably came from those people who ignored weeks of noise and warnings [7], [8], [9] and put in a thin blue line and blocked the National Guard. If you want to blame anyone, then blame the Trump Administration. They made the appointments and preparations. This obvert lack could also seem like pre-meditation.

5) Security Chaos

The failure of the police meant the Capitol was defended by security officers who had been trained to shoot terrorists and assassins. It is no wonder one person was shot, and amazing that more were not killed. Three of the four protestors who died are currently said to have died of medical complications. One was possibly crushed to death in the crowd.

The security at the Capitol was surprisingly low key. It appears to advertise that if any real and moderately competent terrorist organisation had wanted to, they could have invaded and shot up Capitol Hill without problem.

6) Lack of Revolutionary Aims

The rioters seemed to have no idea what to do when they achieved their aims. Some people have said they were going to burn the electoral college votes, but they failed to do that, and there is no evidence that was an aim shared by the majority of people – any more there is evidence the pipe bombs were the work of many people. While burning the votes might have been a great piece of symbolism, it would achieve nothing. There was no attempt to seize centres of power, to control the airwaves or barricade themselves in, or even bring automatic weapons into the building.

Most of the rioters seemed happy enough to frolic around, break into offices, steal souvenirs and pose for photos. This was not a crowd of organised revolutionaries. I’m not sure they can be called terrorists either, despite the Federal Code of Regulation definition that terrorism is:

the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof and furtherance of political or social objectives

As quoted by D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser Press Conference Day After Capitol Riot Transcript January 7

Discontents is probably better. If it were not for the injured cops this might have been disorderly ‘fun’.

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On the other hand, some people wore neo-nazi symbols and apparently called for the execution of Mike Pence (who knows how seriously) for not obeying Trump’s call to neutralise the result. People have alleged there were plans to capture Nancy Pelosi, but the evidence seems conjectural at this moment. However, Neo-Nazis reportedly boasted they were there, and the Proud Boys reputedly sent out a message saying:

For several hours, our collective strength had politicians in Washington in absolute terror. The treacherous pawns (cops) were also terrified…

The system would have you believe that you are alone. That’s why they want to ban all ‘radicals’ from social media. They want you to feel alone. But the truth is that you are not alone. We are everywhere.

Things will get difficult soon but don’t lose heart. We are growing and our unity will terrify the evil elites running this nation.

Proud Boys Boast About Politicians ‘in Absolute Terror’ During Capitol Raid. Newsweek, 7 January.

So some people had ambitions, perhaps after the event. The FBI says ‘Antifa’ does not seem to have had much if any presence. Earlier reports claiming this was not the case have since been discredited.

So let us be clear about this. Mainstream people on the Right are blaming a group for the riots, who almost certainly were not there, while ignoring right wing extremists who certainly were there, who are claiming responsibility for the occupation and the violence, and who are promising more of the same.

And these same people want unity and no prosecution of Trump for anything? Some of them because they fear what might come next. This again is cowardice, and indicates the possible take over of the Republican party by fascists.

7) Spread

The event was not confined to the Capitol in Washington. There were similar, generally peaceful, if less successful, protests across the country: in Arizona (which involved breaking glass and a guillotine), Colarado, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Texas, Utah, and probably elsewhere. It is notable that many people were also protesting against coronavirus lockdowns and did not wear masks. So we can see this movement as a spreader event. Perhaps deliberately to generate more chaos for the new Administration to deal with, but more probably to do with disbelief.

With the Internet it is not necessary for there to be an organising body, but apparently the main event was organised by “Women for America First” and it allegedly involved people from the Presiden’ts 2020 campaign. When asked the Trump Campaign apparently said

We did not organize, operate or finance this event. No campaign staff was involved in the organization or operation of this event. If any former employees or independent contractors for the campaign worked on this event, they did not do so at the direction of the Trump campaign.

Trump allies helped plan, promote rally that led to Capitol attack. ABC NEWS (America) 9 January

As you would expect, they avertised the event to their followers, through twitter and facebook. For example:

and

Women for America First announced:

We are saddened and disappointed at the violence that erupted on Capitol Hill, instigated by a handful of bad actors, that transpired after the rally

Trump allies helped plan, promote rally that led to Capitol attack. ABC NEWS (America) 9 January and “Statement on Violence at the Capitol

And did the expected blame shifting, it’s got nothing to do with them and everything to do with people they don’t like:

Unfortunately, for months the left and the mainstream media told the American people that violence was an acceptable political tool. They were wrong. It is not. 

Trump allies helped plan, promote rally that led to Capitol attack. ABC NEWS (America) 9 January and “Statement on Violence at the Capitol

Apparently, no one ever listens to the right wing media…

The Women for America First website with the statement on it seems to have disappeared. Other people involved in the event appear to have included: “Stop the Steal,” “Wild Protest.com” “Turning Point Action,” “Rule of Law Defence Fund,” “Tea Party Patriots,” Eighty Percent Coalition”, not to mention “Proud Boys”, “Three Percenters” and the like – who do seem to have some familiarity with threatening violence.

Some allege that some of the misinformation and promotion of violence came from ‘big oil’ and those who promote climate denial [10], [11] which, if correct, shows how terrified they are of even the minor climate efforts Biden has promised to make. It is true, that Trump would have kept subsidies and profits up for a while longer if he ‘won,’ and fossil fuel companies have never shown much concern over democracy.

Fear is also part of the spread of misinformation. One Republican Representative is reported as saying:

“One of the saddest things is I had colleagues who, when it came time to recognize reality and vote to certify Arizona and Pennsylvania in the Electoral College, they knew in their heart of hearts that they should’ve voted to certify, but some had legitimate concerns about the safety of their families. They felt that that vote would put their families in danger,”

Amash’s Successor Peter Meijer: Trump’s Deceptions Are ‘Rankly Unfit. Reason 8 January 2021

If true, this is fascism in action again, and not being denounced.

8) Fantasy

The following report may not be accurate, but while some protestors were disappointed in Trump, and his failure to produce evidence for the “storm” that many people on the Right had been expecting and inciting for so long (when the deep state Satanist pedophiles would be arrested and charged), some of the rioters or riot supporters claim that Trump’s apparent backdown is a deep fake video, or perhaps:

“He has a plan here President Trump would not back down that easily… We need to stand strong, keep watch and pray. Something big is coming and Gid [God] is going to see it through.”

“Trump did not concede. He used language to buy a little extra time because the senators and congressmen who support him are being threatened with dirty bombs and their families’ lives by the Deep State and/or communist Chinese … I have it on good grounds that Trump will be moving with the military And regarding the transition to a new administration, means Trump with a new VP Pence is obviously a traitor and is ‘fired’”

Donald Trump fans cry betrayal as he rebukes Capitol violence. The Guardian, 8 January 2021

If the Storm has not happened by now, we can assume it will never happen, and would never happen.

9) It is not Necessarily ended

Some have compared this event to the Munich Beer Hall putsch of 1923. Hitler’s failed attempt to take over Bavaria. From that event we learn that Hitler was no brave war hero, but he came back some years later and produced a lot of death. The point of the comparison is just to remind us that failure does not always mean that a movement is ended. Ten years from now, maybe Trump or someone like him will succeed in inspiring people who feel displaced and take over the government.

If politicians get the message that these people (like most people) cannot be controlled and selling one’s soul (for power) to a proto-fascist is not a good deal, then something has to change. The problems faced by real people trying to live in neoliberal America have to be taken seriously and people have to feel that government is something they can participate in without needing force. Neoliberalism has to go, because this is where it leads.

However, Republican leaders are generally not condemning either the rioter’s or their party’s association with neo-fascism and white supremacy, never mind putting the wealthy first. Hence we can assume they are happy to go along with things as they are. This increases the likelihood of that party being taken over by those forces and being used by those forces, just as QAnon appears to have tried to use Trump for its purposes, through the cultivation of fantasy and resonance.

The information mess of information society, is another problem. Propaganda is effective, and can easily promote these kind of events and this kind of resentment. Fascism is easy, not impossible because of some national spirit. It can happen anywhere. We somehow need to establish a truth which can be shared amongst all, but fascist propagandists seek a truth that splits and makes the acceptors superior. Or perhaps we need to establish a more general, non-directed skepticism. I don’t know a solution, but an approach is needed.

10) Election Inquiry?

Personally I would go for an independent open and public inquiry into the Election process. It would include all the alleged events that Trump mentions. This would allow them to be refuted in public. It would also include: investigation into Gerrymandering; voter suppression; refusals to have enough pre-poll booths; attempts to crush mail-in voting through sabotaging the post office or any other way; intimidation or attempted bribery of electoral officials and workers; the apparently deliberate delays in voting in certain areas; explanations about the way voting trends can change; and so on. It perhaps should investigate the rules around the electoral college or the consequences of its abandonment. It perhaps should recommend a public holiday to make voting possible for many people. It would have the power to charge the ex-President, and anyone else with offenses before a court, if they should be demonstrated. It should also consider making Washington DC, and Puerto Rico into States for electoral purposes. If people say this should not happen because Republicans would never win without restricting the vote, then let them think about their commitment to democracy or lack of useful policies.

Endnote: Trump Administration Speeches

Trump’s big speech before the riot, starts as it goes on.

This was not a close election. I say sometimes jokingly, but there’s no joke about it, I’ve been in two elections. I won them both and the second one, I won much bigger than the first. Almost 75 million people voted for our campaign, the most of any incumbent president by far in the history of our country, 12 million more people than four years ago. I was told by the real pollsters, we do have real pollsters. They know that we were going to do well, and we were going to win. What I was told, if I went from 63 million, which we had four years ago to 66 million, there was no chance of losing. Well, we didn’t go to 66. We went to 75 million and they say we lost. We didn’t lose.

By the way, does anybody believe that Joe had 80 million votes? Does anybody believe that? He had 80 million computer votes. It’s a disgrace. There’s never been anything like that. You could take third world countries. Just take a look, take third world countries. Their elections are more honest than what we’ve been going through in this country. It’s a disgrace. It’s a disgrace. Even when you look at last night, they’re all running around like chickens with their heads cut off with boxes. Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen….

if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do. This is from the number one or certainly one of the top constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We’re supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our constitution, and protect our constitution. States want to revote. The States got defrauded. They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice-President Pence has to do is send it back to the States to recertify, and we become president, and you are the happiest people.

Donald Trump Speech “Save America” Rally Transcript January 6. Rev 6 January


Despite being full of falsehood, denunciation of the election result, and self praise (he “had to beat Oprah, [who] used to be a friend of mine”), the speech does not seems to be a direct incitement to riot. There is little to no evidence for his impeachment on those grounds here [although see this analysis, which I think its a bit strained]. Indeed Trump said:

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard….

we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… [ellipsis in original to indicate change of track] The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. 

So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. 

Donald Trump Speech “Save America” Rally Transcript January 6. Rev 6 January

He did not walk with them, although it is not clear why. Perhaps he wanted to be elsewhere if violence broke out – it would be safer for him. The only overtly but vague instruction for riot he gave was:

I said, “Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened.” And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.

Donald Trump Speech “Save America” Rally Transcript January 6. Rev 6 January

This could easily be defended as a figure of speech. The violence, seems to have been plotted beforehand, and not at the speech. Trump may have been simply a focus for other people to make that move – perhaps this is something he wanted to take advantage of, but not be directly involved in.

During the riot he tries to steer both sides, those of the rioters and those who were not impressed by the riots:

I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election, and everyone knows it, especially the other side, but you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great [pause] people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened, where they could take it away from all of us, from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special. You’ve seen what happens. You see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home and go home at peace.

Trump Video Telling Protesters at Capitol Building to Go Home: Transcript. Rev 6 January and Facebook

This is a line made clear by his press secretary Kayleigh McEnany as well.

What we saw yesterday, was a group of violent rioters, undermining the legitimate First Amendment rights of the many thousands who came to peacefully have their voices heard in our nation’s Capitol. Those who violently besieged our Capitol, are the opposite of everything this administration stands for. 

White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany Press Briefing on Capitol Riot Transcript

This massive backdown, implies either cowardice or that he was being used by other more competent people for their own purposes, to start something off, or to be a figurehead. QAnon seems to be that kind of movement, as the President seemed to make little use of it, or have little familiarity with its arguments and misinformation, even when it would have been useful for him. This probably means ‘Q’ not only does not have many ties with the President, but probably not with the Republican Party itself. This again makes impeachment hard.

Conservatism again

January 3, 2021

Most conservatism seems misrepresented by those modern movements which take the name of conservatism, which largely seem to have lost conservative approaches to conservation, trust, truth, and virtue. Neoliberalism has eaten conservatism.

I have a number of slightly weird, and possibly contradictory, political positions, as anyone who has read this blog will probably know, but there are some common threads. In some ways, I’m a more or less traditional conservative, ie Burkean, Coleridgean, Ruskinean. That means I don’t have much in common with most people who claim the Conservative label nowadays, but there is no reason we cannot have ‘left’ conservatives, especially if you think the post WWII boom was probably a good time to live, and a time which held promise.

Roots of Conservatism

The root of conservatism is conserving the best of our past while slowly improving it – the ‘slowly’ is often important, as I hope will become clear as we go along.

The two most important processes to conserve are: The Land, and Tradition or Culture.

The Land

The land needs to be conserved because life in whatever is our Country depends upon the Land. Humans relate to the Land, it is in their nature. Despoliation of the Land shows disrespect for our ancestors and traditions, and can put us in the place were we can no longer be self-reliant on the Land for food. Wild Land is important, because it reminds us of the grandeur of nature and power of God. There should be land in which people can be alone, and gain inner strength and self-reliance. We may need to keep predators that can challenge us, so that we don’t become human predators.

Preserving the Land, also preserves the particular beauties that are associated with our country and that helps shape the souls of those who live in our country. Despoliation of land is equivalent to despoliation of the ‘national soul’.

Of course cultivated land is good (I say this because people often fall into false dichotomies), but cultivation again should not mean despoliation. And ideally the land should be small holdings, supporting families in dignity, rather than large land holdings which turn the people away from care for their surroundings, into wage labour, or even serfdom or slavery, and an inability to self-support.

Tradition and Culture

Tradition is important, that is what shapes our culture and our way of life. It can often be related to the Land. Customs, habits and ecologies fit together in mutual support – this is what anthropologists used to call functionalism – everything, no matter how apparently irrational has an important social function. Disrespect for tradition is an attack on our way of life. However, tradition changes. It always changes. If we are careful we can improve tradition. Thus while an 18th Century conservative may well have approved slavery, a modern conservative should not, because we know it was a stain on the social fabric, an incidence of inhumanity and a corruption of spirit for both slaves and slave-owners, and it was counter to the trend of our Religion.

However, because of the delicate balance of these ‘systems,’ we need to be slow and careful when we make changes. We need to find out whether unintended consequences arise from removing checks and balances. It is often the case that while we think we are doing good, we are destroying what we seek to preserve.

Care and observation should the basis of conservatism, as well as respect for those who know, work and study.

Elites, Virtue and Art

All conservatives respect elites of some sort or another, but this can be a bit complicated.

All societies have elites, this is the nature of humanity, and sometimes elites can be destructive. However, the conservative idea is that society should be governed by the best people available, who are then held responsible by the people in general.

Elites should be trained and experienced, but not restricted to an ‘aristocracy’. Elites should ‘circulate’, that is they should admit the best people, whoever they are, and drop those who are no longer ‘up to it’. There should be social mobility. Effort in many different skills should be rewarded, so as to give people something to strive for.

When people have no visible chance of social mobility, then they may well support dangerous demagogues and revolutionaries. What other option do they have? This support will destroy social balance, harmony and tradition, so it is no solution, but it feels like one.

The populace will tend to emulate the elites – this again is human nature – so the better the elites, the more virtuous the elites, the better are the population and the better the nation becomes. If the elite are braggarts who seek their own wealth, power and exemption from the law, then that is what the populace will seek as well, to their own and society’s detriment.

This is why elites need stronger discipline than the populace. It is why a traitor among the elites is worse than a traitor amongst the people.

The point of the elites is that they should govern for the good of all, hence the importance of inculcating virtue and training. As soon as an elite starts governing for its own advantage, society begins heading for collapse.

Elites are not just responsible for governance, but for supporting the best religion, art, culture and beauty – not only traditional but new. They have the power to do this, or the power to neglect this, but it is an obligation, just as it is an obligation to be virtuous.

Again, the aim of this support, is to improve the souls of the people, to make them turn from the ugliness of sin, and cherish bountiful aspirations, and relationships. The elite need to be generous. Most good art should be public art. This does not mean that elites do not support art for their own glory as well, but the glory should be directed both ways to the people and the elite. Again this is building connection, which builds society.

Art is not secondary to money in terms of building tradition and social well being.

Unfortunately, elites may sometimes need to lie to govern, or to defend the Country. They may want to use what Plato called the ‘noble lie’. This is unfortunately sometimes necessary. However, lying needs to be discouraged. Elites need to respect truth, and to be honest whenever possible. Lies for a noble strategies’ sake, easily become lies for selfish ingroup, or personal, benefit. Lies break relationship, leading to the liar feeling falsely superior to the deceived. When lies are uncovered, the people cease to trust the elites. Elites have to be able to be held to account, and staying with the truth, as well as it is known, is the best way whenever possible.

Elites are privileged, and their privilege is only justified by the example they set, and their care for others ‘beneath’ them. Without this care, and this relationship, elites almost certainly become destructive.

Elites should put themselves on the line. They have a responsibility to be the first in combat, the first to take salary cuts, the first to give for their country, the first to step out of comfort and help others in distress. That is, they set the example. They become what the people will emulate.

Conservatism encourages relationships between the classes, as a society is built upon relationships (preferably personal not contractual, monetary or compelled), and relationships carry obligation and responsibility. If relationship, obligation and responsibility is denied or sabotaged, then society fragments and becomes factional. It is on the way down.

A society built on extensive cross-cutting relationships, will have ‘networks’ of support and responsibility, it is more likely to endure crisis. It is more likely the elites and the people will be connected, and governance will be for all.

The issue of elites becomes even more complicated, when we recognise ‘wealth elites’ or ‘capitalist elites’

Capitalism and its elites

Real conservatives, while accepting capitalism as a potential force for good, are also cautious about it. Capitalism does not respect tradition or Land, or good government for all.

If tradition and virtue can be corrupted to make a buck, then capitalists will corrupt them without any thought of the future. If despoiling Land makes money in the short term, then Land will be despoiled. The same with everything else of value.

Capitalism tends to reduce all virtue, all relationships and all government to money. All value becomes monetary value.

Capitalists, if not watched, will tend to set up an aristocracy of wealth, without any loyalty to anything other than making themselves more wealthy. Capitalism easily becomes plutocracy.

It is not conservative to think that markets will always deliver the best result for everyone and for the country. That is special interest lobbying.

We should remember that Edmund Burke spent a large proportion of his career and effort into attempting to curtail the East India Company’s actions in India because its business was not good for the subjects of Empire. Modern conservatives pretend business is always good. Real conservatives do not.

Conservatives know that that virtue is the basis of society and should be beyond money and purchase. Conservatives know that society is based in relationships and not money.

Money is useful, but money is not a god. You cannot worship both God and Mammon. If you try, you will loose God. You will get religions which insist that wealth is the only mark of virtue and that God wants everyone to have money (God probably ‘wants’ everyone to have spiritual wealth, care for others, and contentment).

These capitalist prosperity religions make the poor sick at heart. They say to everyone, “if you are not rich then you are not godly” and “if you are godly then you are rich”. This is not only blasphemy, but it is destructive of society. The poor may always be with us, but they can aim to be saints. Saints embrace poverty. Poverty is not necessarily a good thing, and we should do our best to help relieve it, but it is bearable while people have dignity and respect, and are not repeatedly informed they are without God, talent, virtue or use. Traditional Christianity strongly recognises this.

However, capitalism has no respect for truth. PR, advertising, cronyism and hype seem to be an essential and everyday part of its life. It cannot be left to seek its own level of falsehood, or society will be swamped in malevolent fantasy, which is only solved by collapse.

Capitalism, if not watched and cared for, as we would watch and care for a tiger, is dangerous as well as splendid.

Real conservatives realise this. Rule of the country should never be handed to the wealth elite alone, for they will rule according to greed, and according to the money they can make. They will destroy all the balances, and all the finer things of the soul, that make a country great.

That, again, is simply reality.

Division of Powers

Consequently, conservatives will encourage as many competing powers as possible, to ensure the Country is not taken over by one group alone.

Organised religion should be a power, but not the only power as it easily becomes tyranny, and suppressive of all other religions and religious variants.

Workers should be a power. Unions developed to save workers from capitalist greed. They are part of our Tradition and should not be bought out or destroyed to give capitalists more power. However, again, they should not be the only power.

The courts should be separate from the government and act as a check upon the government.

The military is a power and (sadly) necessary, but should always be subservient to the governors, in terms of not declaring war itself. War should be declared by Parliament not the executive. The military must be held to high standards of virtue and discipline, or else it can shelter barbarism and cruelty. The military should never approve war crimes, as this reflects badly on the rest of society and mutual trust.

Science should be a power. It is the best guide we have to the truth of the world. Hence scientists annoyingly give different advice as the evidence and understanding change. This is why they are advisors and not governors. People who condemn scientists, when listening to them would be inconvenient, are foolish at best. Scientists should be trained to respect both the truth and relationship.

Business should be a power, but not the only power. We need to understand what generates prosperity and nobility in the long term, and that may not come from business alone.

Civil Society organisations should be powers, to provide input from those who might be ignored.

Public servants should be a power, they have accumulated wisdom and experience, but clearly the bureaucracy should not rule alone, as one of it’s purposes is to check and regulate rule.

Everyone knows that any group can become self-interested, but the more groups involved in governance, the less chance we have of being taken over by one limited self interest.

Liberty

By respecting this variety we encourage liberty, not directed by the one group, so it is real liberty.

But conservatives remember that liberty is not the freedom to do everything you want. Liberty is constrained by consideration for others.

Without virtue, liberty becomes tyranny. This is the basis of the law. You are not free to steal, you are not free to murder, you are not free to defraud others, you are not free to slander with no regard for truth, you are not free to poison people or the Land, you are not free to betray your country and so on.

Conclusion

To conclude, and I could go on and on, I’ll repeat that conservatism is about conserving the best of the past (culture and traditions), changing things slowly, looking for unintended consequences, and preserving the Land.

It is not governing on behalf of one group alone.

Any politics which does not realise this, is not Real Conservatism, as far as I’m concerned.

Trump and the campaign against Democracy

January 3, 2021

Trump does not have to do anything other than convince most of his followers that the election was stolen, and that he and they are victims of a vast and clearly powerful conspiracy. He was preparing for this before the election [footnote1], and claimed victory after the election, without any particular evidence that I know of – that is, he made an over-optimistic or deliberately false claim, not a mistaken claim [footnote2]. We might well assert that Donald Trump can never admit to losing or failing, he will pretend he was successful or he will blame others for cheating. This seems to be a long established characteristic.

However, his claims are working. A small Reuters Ipsos poll taken on Nov. 13-17 found only 29% of Republican voters said that Biden had rightfully won and 68% of Republicans said they were concerned that the election was “rigged.” A poll from Vox and Data for Progress taken on 16 November stated:

73 percent of likely Republican voters say that the allegations of voter fraud have made them question Joe Biden’s victory, a statement that 44 percent of all likely voters agreed with as well. Similarly, 75 percent of likely Republican voters said they believed voter fraud took place during the election that benefitted Biden, something that 43 percent of likely voters overall also stated.

Vox poll: 73 percent of Republican voters are questioning Biden’s victory

A poll taken in early December, by Quinnipiac University found that Republicans “say 70 – 23 percent that they think Biden’s victory is not legitimate…  38 percent [of all registered voters] say they believe there was widespread fraud.” Rather oddly “Republicans say 77 – 19 percent they believe there was widespread voter fraud,” so there are presumably Republicans who think that there was widespread Republican fraud.

Whatever the case, a large majority of Republicans appear to think that Biden did not really win legitimately.

So, because of these claims, assuming he gets into the White House, Joe Biden will not be accepted by a large portion of the US population, no matter if he won the popular vote by 7 million votes or not (over c.81,281,000 to c.74,224,000).

Consequently, Trump’s side of politics can refuse all co-operation and bog the nation down in do-nothingness, while the US is raddled with uncontrollable pandemics, poverty and so on. The only allowed solution to which is more Trump, and more neoliberal Republicanism.

To achieve his aim, Trump does not need evidence that holds up in court. He only requires a few out of context videos, a few non tested testimonies, a heap of rumour, and the assertion that things were weird, and that he could not loose, and for his supporters not to hear the refutations of Trump’s assertions – which will happen due to the ways right wing media works.

This is probably why his lawyers have not presented evidence to the courts that was not easily dismissed as hearsay. All he needs is the allegation of there being evidence repeatedly backed up by people and media on his side. This allegation will be joined to the allegation that everyone who disagrees with the evidence he has alleged to be true and meaningful, is either naïve, brainwashed or part of the conspiracy. These assertions will be repeated over and over.

Then his followers are trapped. They have to agree, or they face exile, rage and mockery – and they think it could possibly be true, as after all so many people are asserting there is irrefutable evidence…. And no one who asserts otherwise can be trusted.

His followers are the victims, of a failed society, and they experience that every day, why should they have faith in its institutions?

Trump attempted to change certifications and called those people in his party who were responsible for certifications in order to change their minds. Lindsay Graham reputedly rang the Georgia Secretary of State, to have votes thrown out. Trump appears to have sought to have large numbers of votes thrown out with little to no evidence presented, other than the fact that he did not think he could lose. [For more see Footnote 3].

The assumption seems to be that if there was any cheating, it had to be Democrat cheating, but it is at least conceptually possible that the reason why Biden did not win by as much as expected is that there was Republican cheating. We know that Republicans tried to prevent people from voting in advance, or by mail, and that was probably to scare off those who believed Covid was a problem, who seem to be primarily Democrat. So there is form here. Trump quote figures for fake votes without any apparent sources, or with ambiguous videos so, if there were fake votes then they could be for anyone. Furthermore, if the votes for the Senate and the House were accurate, which Republicans seem to expect, these are made at the same time, so why were they not faked?

One high level Trump supporter called for a military take over, another said of Chris Krebs, who declared the election secure, “that guy is a class A moron. He should be drawn and quartered. Taken out at dawn and shot.” The same person also remarked of those Republicans who said the election was fair: “the governors in these states are a bunch of losers, along with their secretaries of state. I’ve never seen such wimps wearing an R [being Republican]…. You know, they’re going to have to be dealt with politically. It’s the only way you deal with these people.” Other people received death threats and slurs, apparently from Trump followers, with little objection from Republican representatives.

Michigan’s secretary of state, Jocelyn Benson, said dozens of armed protesters gathered in a threatening manner outside her home on Saturday evening chanting “bogus” claims about electoral fraud.

Armed pro-Trump protesters gather outside Michigan elections chief’s home. The Guardian, 8 December 2020

The idea seems to be to intimidate and bribe. If so, this is fascism in action. This is the real cancel culture.

People on the Democrat side tend to believe in things like the rule of law, playing fair, and not lying all the time, so consequently they don’t even see that democracy is crumbling, despite the refutations of Trump by ‘experts’, people who were present where there was supposedly cheating, courts, and so on. This is also despite the number of votes Trump requested be nullified.

Refutations mean nothing, as Trump knows. To Trump’s followers the refutations, and their consistency, only prove the depth of the conspiracy against them. The 60 or so failed court cases, again demonstrate the size, ruthlessness and power of the opposition against him, not the fact that only one of the cases was any good.

By his followers’ lights, Democrats who can engineer all this failure for the super-businessman, must be evil. Evil stops at nothing, so evil cannot be believed, and evil must be crushed forever. Trump will not give in. He will take revenge on all who have stopped him being declared winner as was his right. His followers will agree and cheer.

So people on his side in the next election, will probably only step in to scrutinize results if they already know Republicans should win, and any Democrat victories are the result of fraud. They know the cost of ‘being truthful’ and going against Republican declarations of fraud. So not only will Republicans intensify their demonstrated opposition to any possible non-Republican votes, but they will try and fix the counts, to get at the real truth of America.

And when the next Republican gets in, he will not have to listen to Democrats at all because people on his side know that Democrats fixed an election and are evil. Democrats can slowly be rounded up because they are evil and corrupt, and many people will have no sympathy for them. And it won’t take much of that before most Democrats decide the results of this election probably were faked and they should go along with it. The media will go along to keep going along, and nobody will report the threats and so they will not exist.

Only a few people will even notice that democracy has gone, because it all will be done in defense of democracy.

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[Footnote 1] A brief history of Trump and allegations of electoral fraud

After the election of Obama. Trump tweeted:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!

Twitter Nov 7, 2012

A deleted tweet said:

He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!

Donald Trump Freaks Out on Twitter After Obama Wins Election, Mashable 7 November 2012

and

The phoney electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser one!

as above

Actually Obama seems to have won the popular vote by about 5 million votes. However, it is clear that loosing the popular vote but wining in the electoral college is no longer a problem in 2016.

In 2016, he lost the Iowa primary to Ted Cruz and wrote:

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

Ted Cruz didn’t win Iowa, he stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!

Twitter 12: 47 am Feb 4, 2016

and

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified.

Twitter 1: 28 am Feb 4 2016

Even later he tweeted:

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
I will be interviewed on @foxandfriends at 9:00 A.M. I will be talking about the rigged and boss controlled Republican primaries!

Twitter 10:00 PM · Apr 16, 2016

In the 2016 presidential election against Hillary Clinton, he tweeted.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
This election is being rigged by the media pushing false and unsubstantiated charges, and outright lies, in order to elect Crooked Hillary!

Twitter Oct 15, 2016

A section of a debate with Hilary Clinton went like this:

Donald Trump: She shouldn’t be allowed to run. She’s guilty of a very, very serious crime. She should not be allowed to run. And just in that respect, I say it’s rigged. Because she should never-… she should never have been allowed to run for the presidency based on what she did with emails and so many other things.

Chris Wallace: (01:04:31)
But sir, there is a tradition in this country. In fact, one of the prides of this country is the peaceful transition of power and that no matter how hard for what a campaign is that at the end of the campaign, that the loser concedes to the winner. Not saying that you’re necessarily going to be the loser or the winner, but that the loser concedes to the winner and that the country comes together in part for the good of the country. Are you saying you’re not prepared now to commit to that principle?

Donald Trump: (01:04:57)
What I am saying is that I will tell you at the time. I’ll keep you in suspense.

Hillary Clinton: (01:05:01)
Well, Chris, let me respond to that because that’s horrifying. Every time Donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is is rigged against him. The FBI conducted a year long investigation into my emails. They concluded there was no case. He said the FBI was rigged. He lost the Iowa caucus. He lost the Wisconsin primary. He said the Republican primary was rigged against him. Then Trump University gets sued for fraud and racketeering, he claims the court system and the federal judge is rigged against him. There was even a time when he didn’t get an Emmy for his TV program three years in a row and he started tweeting that the Emmy’s were rigged against him.

Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton 3rd Presidential Debate Transcript 2016

Some days later he commented:

I would like to promise and pledge to all of my voters and supporters and to all of the people of the United States that I will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election, if I win,

Donald Trump: ‘I will totally accept’ election results ‘if I win’ 20 October 2016 – emphasis added.

Possibly a joke?, But its only fakery if he looses, yet he became one of the few Presidents to claim his victory was in a faked election

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

Twitter Nov 28, 2016

He continued his claims of fraud into 2017

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
Look forward to seeing final results of VoteStand. Gregg Phillips and crew say at least 3,000,000 votes were illegal. We must do better!

Twitter Jan 28, 2017

The UK based Independent commented:

VoteStand is an amateur app that allows people to send in their own reports of voter fraud. The app has been downloaded just a few thousand times and is barely used…. The VoteStand Twitter account has only 614 followers.

Even if the app detected genuine instances of voter fraud, so few people use it that it would be impossible for three million infractions to have taken place [and been reported].

Votestand: Donald Trump relies on unknown app to back up claims of voter fraud. The Independent, 27 January 2017

His administration even threatened to investigate the supposed fraud, and Trump reportedly alleged again that millions of illegal immigrants voted in the 2016 election. No evidence was presented.

Let us be clear, if President Trump wanted to set up a commission to ensure US elections were secure, well-regulated, and reflected the will of the people, he had plenty of opportunity to do so. Republicans controlled the Senate and the House for his first two years so, even if Democrats had objected (which is unlikely, if the commission was not phrased as a witch hunt), a commission could easily have been set up to consider all the available evidence, and to find ways of better securing the results. He did not do this.

A reasonable conclusion from his comments, is that he only wants to challenge the voting system when votes don’t go his way.

He began this 2020 election pointing out a problem with mail-in voting….

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Republicans should fight very hard when it comes to state wide mail-in voting. Democrats are clamoring for it. Tremendous potential for voter fraud, and for whatever reason, doesn’t work out well for Republicans. @foxandfriends

Twitter 10:20 PM · Apr 8, 2020 Emphasis added.

For what it is worth, one mid year survey estimated that:

“More than one-third of Americans intend to vote by mail in the November presidential election”….

Among them, 48% of voters who plan to vote for Democratic presumptive nominee Joe Biden said they are likely to vote by mail, according to the survey. That’s more than twice the 23% of voters backing President Donald Trump who said they are likely to vote by mail. 

Biden voters twice as likely than Trump supporters to vote by mail in November, survey finds, USAToday 18 August 2020

So we can agree with the President that mail in ballots were going to be bad for Republicans. We could also suspect that if the mail in votes were counted after the polling day results, then there would be a significant swing in Biden’s direction, late in the counting. Some votes might be post-marked before the election and delivered after the election, especially given the apparent run down of the post-office.

As I understand it, in the USA, mailed ballots are safe for several reasons

  • They are signed by the voter.
  • The signature on the ballot is matched to one on file.
  • They are individually barcoded to keep track of the votes and voters, and check what forms are used.
  • All this information is stored and put on the electoral role, to catch people who vote by mail and then in person.
  • The US military use mailed ballots.

Most research appears to show mail-in votes are safe [2]. The Right wing Heritage Foundation reported only 1,308 proven instances of voter fraud since the 1990s. Only a subset of these votes were mail-in.

However, governments do sometimes send out multiple application forms, and sometimes people seem to think this is the actual voting form.

in California, the governor sent, I hear or sending millions of ballots all over the state. Millions to anybody. To anybody. People that aren’t citizens, illegals, anybody that walks in California is going to get a ballot. We’re not going to destroy this country by allowing things like that to happen. We’re not destroying our country. This has more to do with fairness and honesty and really our country itself because when that starts happening, you don’t have a fare. You have a rigged system. You have a rigged system and that’s what would happen.

We’re not going to let it happen because you’re subverting our process and you’re making our country a joke and the Democrats are doing it because in theory, it’s good for them. Although last week we two big races. We won in Wisconsin and one in California. California, 25. We won a tremendous race in California.

Transcript: Donald Trump Remarks on Protecting Seniors with Diabetes May 26, 2020

I think we’re going to have a lot of people show up. I’m very worried about mail-in voting because I think it’s subject to tremendous fraud and being rigged. Do you see that Paterson, New Jersey, where I believe it was 20% of the vote was fraudulent? It was all sorts of things happened. I understand a mailman was recently indicted someplace for playing games with the mail-in ballots….

You’ll have tremendous fraud if you do these mail-in ballots. Now, absentee ballots are okay, because absentee ballots, you have to get applications. You have to go through a process. If I’m here, and I vote in Florida, you get an absentee ballot. But you have to go through a process. Absentee ballots are great, but mail-in voting, where a governor mails millions of ballots to people all over the state. California, millions and millions of ballots, as an [inaudible 00:56:15]… and then they come back, they don’t come back. Who got them? Did you forget to send them to a Republican area or a Democrat area, I guess you could say? But if you take a look at all of the unbelievable fraud that’s been involved with mail-in voting over the last even short period of a while, but look at Paterson, New Jersey. It was a massive error and a massive miscalculation and there was incredible fraud. Look at the city council, what’s happened to it. This is one place, but you have many places and they’re all over. Yes, please?

Donald Trump Rose Garden Press Conference Transcript July 14, 2020

The Patterson New Jersey case is interesting, but it does not seem to be really about voter fraud, it is about procedural violations. Voters are supposed to either submit or mail in their votes themselves. They can authorise another person to do this, but such people are limited to delivering 3 votes. What seems to have happened is that some people took on far more than three votes from voters. They did not appear to fake them, and they were caught. The judge commented the vote was “rife with mail in vote procedural violations.” [3], [4] The case concerns an election for a city council ward, which is probably a little less protected than a Presidential Election.

Now it’s very bad what’s going on with mail-in ballots. Okay? As differentiated from absentee ballots where you have to go and you go through a process because you can’t be there for some reason, but the mail-in ballots is going to be, they’re going to be rigged. They’re going to be a terrible situation. And you have to be careful in Georgia, but you have to be careful everywhere where they’re doing it.

And there’s been tremendous corruption, tremendous corruption on mail-in ballots. So absentee ballot, great, mail-in ballot, absolutely no good. It makes no sense. A governor sends out millions of ballots all over the place. They don’t know where they’re going. They’re going to wherever. I have a friend who got one for his daughter, another one for his daughter, and then a second one for the first daughter. They didn’t know what to do with them. I had another friend, a really wonderful guy who lost his son seven years ago, Robert, his son, Robert, and his son was sent a mail-in ballot. He called me, he said, “What do I do? I just got a mail-in ballot for Robert? Robert died seven years ago.” So it’s a terrible situation if they decide to use it. 

Donald Trump Atlanta Speech Transcript on Rebuilding Infrastructure July 15 2020

Again we have the problem of whether he was sent a mail-in ballot, or sent an application form for a mail in ballot. In interview with Chris Wallace, Trump was asked:

But can you give a direct answer, you will accept the election?

Donald Trump: I have to see. Look, I have to see. No, I’m not going to just say yes. I’m not going to say [inaudible 00:38:24 ‘or not‘???], and I didn’t last time either.

Donald Trump Chris Wallace Interview Transcript July 19 2020

In New Jersey, 20% of the ballots were defective, fraudulent, 20%. And that’s because they did a good job. Okay? So this is just a way they’re trying to steal the election and everybody knows that. Because the only way they’re going to win is by a rigged election. I really believe that. I saw the crowd outside. For every sign we had for Trump Pence, every single sign. 

Donald Trump Speech Transcript August 20, 2020: In Joe Biden’s Hometown

This argument is that because he has crowds he will win….

the only way we’re going to lose this election is if the election is rigged, remember that. It’s the only way we’re going to lose this election… So we have to be very careful. Look, we have more than this election, that’s a big statement. The only way they’re going to win is that way.

Donald Trump Speech Transcript Wisconsin August 17 2020

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Footnote 2: Trump on the 2020 Election

I’d like to provide the American people with an update on our efforts to protect the integrity of our very important 2020 election. If you count the legal votes, I easily win. If you count the illegal votes, they can try to steal the election from us. If you count the votes that came in late, we’re looking to them very strongly, but a lot of votes came in late….

I’ve already decisively won many critical states, including massive victories in Florida, Iowa, Indiana, Ohio, to name just a few. We won these and many other victories despite historic election interference from big media, big money, and big tech. As everybody saw, we won by historic numbers, and the pollsters got it knowingly wrong. They got it knowingly wrong. We had polls that were so ridiculous and everybody knew it at the time.

There was no blue wave that they predicted. They thought there was going to be a big blue wave. That was false. That was done for suppression reasons…..

our opponents major donors were Wall Street bankers and special interests. Our major donors were police officers, farmers, everyday citizens. Yet for the first time ever, we lost zero races in the House….

I’ve been talking about mail-in voting for a long time. It’s really destroyed our system. It’s a corrupt system and it makes people corrupt, even if they aren’t by nature, but they become corrupt. It’s too easy. They want to find out how many votes they need, and then they seem to be able to find them. They wait and wait, and then they find them, and you see that on Election Night….

We were ahead in vote in North Carolina by a lot, a tremendous number of votes, and we’re still ahead by a lot, but not as many because they’re finding ballots all of a sudden. “Oh, we have some mail-in ballots.” It’s amazing how those mail-in ballots are so one-sided too….

Likewise in Georgia, I won by a lot, a lot, with a lead of over getting close to 300,000 votes on Election Night in Georgia. And by the way, got whittled down and now it’s getting to be to a point where I’ll go from winning by a lot to perhaps being even down a little bit…. The election apparatus in Georgia is run by Democrats….

Despite years of claiming to care about the election security, they refuse to include any requirement to verify signatures, identities, or even determined whether they’re eligible or ineligible to vote….

The officials overseeing the counting in Pennsylvania and other key states are all part of a corrupt Democrat machine that you’ve written about. And for a long time, you’ve been writing about the corrupt Democrat machine.

Donald Trump White House Press Conference as Election Counts Continue Transcript November 5

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I WON THE ELECTION!

Twitter Nov 16, 2020

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Footnote 3: Trump tries to fix the election

This will get more documentation over time, but these two cases bring out the point.

Judge Brann remarked of Trump’s Pennsylvania case:

In this action, the Trump Campaign and the Individual Plaintiffs (collectively, the “Plaintiffs”) seek to discard millions of votes legally cast by Pennsylvanians from all corners – from Greene County to Pike County, and everywhere in between. In other words, Plaintiffs ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters. This Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated. One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens.

That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state.

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE MIDDLE DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA…. No. 4:20-CV-02078

A taped Phone call from January 2nd exists in which Trump asked Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, to find more votes, as:

I won this election by hundreds of thousands of votes. There’s no way I lost Georgia. There’s no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes. I’m just going by small numbers, when you add them up, they’re many times the 11,000. But I won that state by hundreds of thousands of votes….

Donald Trump Georgia Phone call Transcript. Rev 4 January 2021

Trump reiterated this argument a few times – he must have won because he felt it, and people said he should have won….

We won very substantially in Georgia. You even see it by rally size, frankly. We’d be getting 25-30,000 people a rally, and the competition would get less than 100 people. And it never made sense…..

I mean, you know, and I didn’t lose the state, Brad. People have been saying that it was the highest vote ever. There was no way. A lot of the political people said that there’s no way they beat me. And they beat me. They beat me in the . . . As you know, every single state, we won every state [hardly because if they had, they would not need to be ringing the people in Georgia]….

I mean, we have many, many times the number of votes necessary to win this State and we won the State and we won it very substantially and easily and we’re getting… We have… Much of this is they’re certified, far more certified than we need. But we’re getting additional numbers certified too. [Again only if you believe him in the first place is this assertion correct]….

Brad, is we have other people coming in now from Alabama and from South Carolina and from other states, and they’re saying it’s impossible for you to have lost Georgia. We won. You know in Alabama, we set a record, got the highest vote ever. In Georgia, we set a record with a massive amount of votes. And they say it’s not possible to have lost Georgia. And I can tell you by our rallies, I can tell you by the rally I’m having on Monday night, the place they already have lines of people standing out front waiting. It’s just not possible to have lost Georgia, it’s not possible. [So what? He knows already how many people turn up at a Rally?]

I won this election by hundreds of thousands of votes. There’s no way I lost Georgia. There’s no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes. I’m just going by small numbers, when you add them up, they’re many times the 11,000. But I won that state by hundreds of thousands of votes.

Donald Trump Georgia Phone call Transcript. Rev 4 January 2021

Trump even made this bizarre claim for his evidence:

President Trump: (30:39)
What about the ballots, the shredding of the ballots, have they been shredding ballots?

Ryan Germany: (30:44)
The only investigation that we have into that, they have not been shredding any ballots. There was an issue in Cobb County where they were doing normal office shredding, getting rid of old stuff, and we investigated that. But this stuff from past elections.

Trump : It doesn’t pass the smell test because we hear they’re shredding thousands and thousands of ballots, and now what they’re saying, “Oh, we’re just cleaning up the office.” You know.

Raffensperger : Mr. President, the problem you have with social media, they — people can say anything.

Trump : Oh this isn’t social media. This is Trump media. It’s not social media. It’s really not; it’s not social media. I don’t care about social media. I couldn’t care less. Social media is Big Tech. Big Tech is on your side, you know. I don’t even know why you have a side because you should want to have an accurate election. And you’re a Republican. [Ah media which agree with Trump are both reliable and not Big Tech]

Donald Trump Georgia Phone call Transcript. Rev 4 January 2021

Trump abused Raffensperger and pleaded with him.

The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry, and there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.

Donald Trump Georgia Phone call Transcript. Rev 4 January 2021

“So what are we going to do here folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break…. You would be respected, really respected, if this can be straightened out before the [Georgia runnoffs] election….”

When Trump claimed that over 5,000 ballots were cast in the state by dead people, Raffensperger responded: “The actual number was two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. So that’s wrong..”

Donald Trump Georgia Phone call Transcript. Rev 4 January 2021 and Trump’s phone call to Brad Raffensperger: six key points. The Guardian 4 January 2021

Trump also claimed:

And the minimum, there were 18,000 ballots, but they used them three times. So that’s, you know, a lot of votes. And they were all to Biden, by the way. That’s the other thing we didn’t say….

Every single ballot that she did through the machines at early, early in the morning went to Biden. Did you know that, Ryan?

Germany : That’s not accurate, Mr. President.

Trump : Huh. What is accurate?

Germany : The numbers that we are showing are accurate….

Trump : No, they were 100 percent for Biden. 100 percent. There wasn’t a Trump vote in the whole group. Why don’t you want to find this, Ryan? What’s wrong with you? [How would he know they were 100% for Biden?]

Donald Trump Georgia Phone call Transcript. Rev 4 January 2021

Earlier the multiple counting came up

Trump: Brad, why did they put the votes in three times? You know, they put ’em in three times.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, they did not put that. We did an audit of that, and we proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times….

Germany: We had our — this is Ryan Germany. We had our law enforcement officers talk to everyone who was, who was there after that event came to light. GBI was with them as well as FBI agents….

Trump: Well, there’s no way they could — then they’re incompetent. They’re either dishonest or incompetent, okay?

Donald Trump Georgia Phone call Transcript. Rev 4 January 2021

People were supposed to have voted from outside Georgia or returned in suspicious circumstances.

Mitchell: The number who have registered out of state after they moved from Georgia. And so they had a date when they moved from Georgia, they registered to vote out of state, and then it’s like 4,500, I don’t have that number right in front of me.

Trump: And then they came back in, and they voted.

Germany : We’ve been going through each of those as well, and those numbers that we got, that Ms. Mitchell was just saying, they’re not accurate. Every one we’ve been through are people that lived in Georgia, moved to a different state, but then moved back to Georgia legitimately.

Trump: How may people do that? They moved out, and then they said, “Ah, to hell with it, I’ll move back.” You know, it doesn’t sound like a very normal . . . you mean, they moved out, and what, they missed it so much that they wanted to move back in? It’s crazy. [I guess that is an insult to Georgia].

Germany: They moved back in years ago. This was not like something just before the election. So there’s something about that data that, it’s just not accurate.

Donald Trump Georgia Phone call Transcript. Rev 4 January 2021

And so it goes on:

Trump: Do you think it’s possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County? Because that’s what the rumor is. And also that Dominion took out machines. That Dominion is really moving fast to get rid of their, uh, machinery.

Germany : This is Ryan Germany. No, Dominion has not moved any machinery out of Fulton County.

Trump : But have they moved the inner parts of the machines and replaced them with other parts?

Germany : No.

Trump : Are you sure, Ryan?

Germany : I’m sure. I’m sure, Mr. President.

Donald Trump Georgia Phone call Transcript. Rev 4 January 2021

You know what they did and you’re not reporting it,…. You know, that’s a criminal — that’s a criminal offense. And you know, you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. That’s a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I’ve heard. And they are removing machinery, and they’re moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal finds…. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state,

Donald Trump Georgia Phone call Transcript. Rev 4 January 2021

As USA Today said:

Georgia officials tallied votes for the presidential election three times in the state, including in an audit required by state law and a recount requested by the president. Each count determined that President-elect Joe Biden won the state, the first Democrat to do so since 1992…

On Dec. 5, Trump urged Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp to demand the state legislature act to overturn Biden’s victory in Georgia. Kemp refused and has been subjected to a steady barrage of Trump attacks in the weeks since….

Neal Katyal, who was acting solicitor general during the Barack Obama administration, said the Trump call to Raffensperger “demonstrates an impeachable, perhaps criminal, offense. It is a behind the scenes look at how Trump carries out the presidency, abusing his power for his gain.”

Brown, Trump pushes Georgia secretary of state to ‘find’ votes during phone call, Washington Post reports, USAToday 3 January 2021

Trump’s response was.

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
I spoke to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger yesterday about Fulton County and voter fraud in Georgia. He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the “ballots under table” scam, ballot destruction, out of state “voters”, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!

Twitter 12:57 AM · Jan 4, 2021

If Trump really believes he has iron clad evidence, then why does he just not present it to a court? The phone call sounds like Trump has a complete incapacity to believe he could lose, or that he could be refused the opportunity to change things without proof. It sounds like a fishing expedition for access to materials to pronounce them fake. It veers from expecting the officials could just change things because its not that many votes they have to ‘find’ or disallow to give him victory, to odd threats and name calling. It even seems he was incapable of recognising the opportunities he had been given by the people in Georgia to establish his case, perhaps because he cannot.

It may need to be said, that even if Trump did win Georgia, he would not win the election. Therefore, we can presume, he is engaging in similar tactics elsewhere, but it has not leaked to the media. Georgia is probably more open as he is trying to get people out to vote in the runoffs by telling them that unless they vote in huge numbers, they will lose.

In a speech a few days later in Georgia he reportedly said:

Your governor, your secretary of state are petrified of Stacey Abrams,” he said, referring to a Democratic voting rights activist who lost to Kemp in 2018. “What’s all that about? They’re say they’re Republicans. I really don’t think they can be.”

The president added ominously: “I’m going to be back here in a year-and-a-half and I’m going to be campaigning against your governor and your crazy secretary of state.”

‘Fight like hell’: grievance and denialism rule at Trump Georgia rally. The Guardian, 5 January 2021

This is perhaps the end point of the ‘Republicans in Name Only’ (RINO) campaign. You are only a real Republican if you support Trump no matter what, and will commit any crime requested to gain the Party victory. Loyalty and obedience to ideology is required, otherwise you will be attacked or dismissed.

If a Democrat had behaved like this, then it would probably be clear to Republicans, that this was an effort to corrupt the election and generate fake votes.