It may be a hallucination, but I swear I heard this conversation the other day….
Andrew BOLT (Skynews. Murdoch man): Look, we are clearly being softened up for Labor to break its promise to cut taxes for wealthy people. What is the best argument for these stage three tax cuts?
Peter DUTTON (Leader of the conservative opposition):
The greatest argument for tax cuts for the wealthy is that we want to give rich people back more of their own money and give a little bit to other people to make it look fair, and as a result the economy will just take off. We’ve 40 years of evidence showing cutting tax for wealthy people works. Look how wages have increased! Look how working conditions have improved! Look how wealth inequality has got even better! Labor is proposing to walk away from what was a core promise which would have a detrimental impact on wealthy individuals, but also on the economy more generally. “Everyone who has stuff will get more, but those who have not, even what they have will be taken away.” That’s reality; it’s in the Bible.
BOLT:
What about the argument, ‘oh, we can’t afford it anymore because inflation, budgetary pressures, maybe a global recession’?
DUTTON:
Well Andrew, the tax cuts don’t start until mid-2024 so there’s no problem now, even if 2023 is promising to be a very difficult year. Everywhere will probably go into recession, but not Australia – given that we’ve had nine years of Coalition government and nothing bad happened until at least a month after we left. It will take a lot for the Labor Party to mess it up and to drive us into recession, which is the last thing I want to talk up for our country, but as we know, Labor is capable of making that decision. Nothing to do with us.
By 2024 everything will be fine, and if not, so what? The tax cuts will stimulate everything.
BOLT:
I would have thought that if the government’s a bit short of other people’s money and it really wants to ‘spend, spend, spend’, then how about cutting their own spending rather than cancelling a tax cut?
DUTTON:
You are really proposing a novel approach that if you’re spending more than you earn, then you should cut back on what you’re earning – like with the tax cut. That’s obviously sensible and the Labor party’s heads will be spinning when they hear that. The Labor Party know how to tax and they know how to spend, they don’t know anything about practicality, and at the core of their ideology is to try and redistribute wealth to people who shouldn’t have it.
In Queensland they’re proposing a ridiculous mining royalties tax and that will drive investment out of Queensland and therefore jobs. No overseas company should have to pay for Australian minerals. We should pay them. That’s what we have done for years, and it works really well. Governments cutting their income is always good policy. Taxes just target people who have worked, when you should be punishing people who have misfortune.
You wouldn’t expect Labor to have too many rational views, like ours. It’s all spend, spend. You wouldn’t catch us spending on anything other than fossil fuels and Covid subsidies to companies that don’t need them. That’s sensible spending.
BOLT:
As I said last night, Peter Dutton, you’ve done something that no one has seen from the conservative side ever before: you got stuck into a culture war. You supported people who hate gays. Never been done before. Ever. Bold Step. Given how much pro-gay news there is the left wing media.
You got criticised by Daniel Andrews, who everyone knows is Satan.
What’s your response?
DUTTON:
Well, there’s a couple of points I could make, but instead let me say this – Daniel Andrews presides over one of the most corrupt governments in the country and if ever there was a time for a change of government, it’s now in Victoria. Ok we could say things about NSW, but that’s just their ICAC being corrupt and badly designed, by holding them up to scrutiny. People on our side get picked on all the time. All the time. We are told we are corrupt. It’s just the left wing media you know. Its a conspiracy.
In Victoria, they are really corrupt. You know they had long lockdowns. Andrews doesn’t argue the merit of his attack on me, you’ll notice, he attacks the person and that’s how he gets away with skating over the issues where he’s been a complete failure in everything. Now I’m letting you know exactly where he is corrupt, and not attacking the person at all!!!. He’s just corrupt.
He would say that he’s in favour of inclusion, he would say that he’s in favour of freedom of choice and freedom of speech and instead he’s supported a decision which has crucified somebody for their religious beliefs. If people want to support gays they can just go somewhere else. If they want to attack them, and they’re religious, they should just get the job. Its political madness. If you can’t go around and state gays should be killed anymore – what can you say? You couldn’t have a conversation like ours, Andrew, could you? It’s the end of all liberty.
I absolutely stand by what I said yesterday. The Liberal Party has very strong values, particularly around the rights of the Church to condemn anyone we don’t like (as long as it’s not business people), and I’ll take every opportunity to assert this because people will know by the time of the next election that there is a big difference between the Liberal Party and the Labor Party – not just on social issues, but on economic and national security issues as well.
BOLT:
The new religion – global warming – this government’s got frankly unbelievable and dangerous targets like making us all buy electric cars, through wanting half of all new car sales to be electric by 2030. That’s taking away our right to be petrol heads. And then they want 83 per cent of our electricity to come from unreliable renewable energy, not good old coal. That’s based on this global warming scare but there’s been so many dud predictions as you know. Here for instance, is our former Chief Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery, 15 years ago:
TIM FLANNERY: Even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river system.
BOLT:
And its pissing down. I ask you. Towns are being destroyed and flooded repeatedly and this guy said it would be dry and sunny. In fact, Sydney has today recorded the most annual rainfall ever. It’s wettest year ever. Its dams are full. Melbourne’s and Brisbane’s nearly full. This more sunny days thing, is just not happening – ok so they supposedly have the worst droughts ever in Europe and China, but it’s just normal. Always having droughts in the UK. We know that. What do you conclude from all this?
DUTTON:
Well, the rivers are rising again as we speak Andrew, and that Tim Flannery was dead wrong, so I presume he’ll come out and apologise for the mistake, but I wouldn’t hold your breath. I mean will we apologise for delayed response on climate change as some people demand? Of course not. Because nothing’s happening, but a bit of rain and a bit of bushfire before that. I mean how weak is that? Our Party stays strong and fixed, whatever the evidence. We could do with some global warming to get rid of this rain, right?
I mean, we’ve started this debate on nuclear power in our country. It’s absurd that in the year 2022 we absolutely can’t be talking about safe new technology in the form of small modular reactors on any media at all. Its not reasonable. This is when France, Canada, China, the United States, the United Kingdom, Germany and many other countries have either adopted or are considering the adoption of nuclear power to firm up the renewables in the system, and don’t have small nukes either. No one does. But small nukes are the future Andrew. We don’t need those stupid gay and feminist renewables do we?
And wanting more and better electricity cables? Does this government think we are made of money? Especially given how important the promised tax cuts are. This pipe dream that the government has of around $100 billion to roll out of cables and towers in communities and towns across the country is never going to be realised. Never. We’ll do everything to stop this waste of money.
We’re talking in Europe at the moment about a catastrophic winter where people are going to either feed themselves or turn on their heaters, but they’re not going to be able to afford to do both. Europe should have had bought into more gas, not these renewables. With gas they can’t be vulnerable to exporters not supplying them because of a war, or because gas is short, or companies are profiteering. Power prices will continue to go through the roof in our country, whilst Labor pursues their zealot-like approach to having renewables and not gas.
I want to see, indeed am happy to see renewables in the system, but it needs to be firmed up to keep the pollution up, and if you don’t like coal and gas and you don’t believe methane based hydrogen’s coming any time soon and hydro is not going to fit the bill, what are you left with? We want happy fossil fuels companies… what more do you need? That keeps the power going our way, no problems.
BOLT:
Peter Dutton, thank you so much indeed for your time.
DUTTON:
Thanks, Andrew. Thank you.
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