As usual, reports of Trump’s apparent calls for a bloodbath have been dismissed as anti-Trump hysteria. He is supposedly threatening Chinese car manufacturers not his opponents
However as usual, the actual state of things is more ambiguous.
Here is the actual transcript, nothing deleted, giving the context:
Transcript
China now is building a couple of massive plants where they’re going to build the cars in Mexico and think, they think that they’re going to sell those cars into the United States with no tax at the border. Let me tell you something to China, if you’re listening, President Xi, and you and I are friends, but he understands the way I deal, those big monster car manufacturing plants that you’re building in Mexico right now, and you think you’re going to get that, you’re going to not hire Americans and you’re going to sell the cars to us. Now, we’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars, if I get elected.
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Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole… That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That’ll be the least of it.
But they’re not going to sell those cars. They’re building massive factories. A friend of mine, all he does is build car manufacturing plants. He’s the biggest in the world. I mean, honestly, I joke about it. He can’t walk across the street, in that way he’s like Biden. But for building a plant, he can do the greatest plants in the world, right? That’s all he cares about. I said, “I’d like to see one of your plants.” Recently, I said, “I’d like to see. Where can we go?” “Well, we have to travel to Mexico.” I said, “Why Mexico?” He said, “Because that’s where the big plants are building. China’s building really big plants in Mexico and Mexico’s building…” “What about here?” “Well, we’re building much smaller plants here.” Can you believe it? Can you believe it?
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For Trump this is an amazingly coherent passage. As readers will probably know his normal speeches are fairly incoherent and repetitive rambles. So my guess is that most of this speech is prompted and prewritten. It is supposed to be about car manufacturing in Mexico, and everything he says could be true, Capitalists are not going to operate where its more expensive. They race to the location of the cheapest cost of production of the quality they need. Low wages costs, low materials cost, low pollution costs. Automation gives them the quality, so they don’t care that much about ‘quality’ workers, and the workers in Mexico may be the same kind of people they would employ in the USA.
In the middle of this speech apparently prompted by the “if I get elected” he appears to change subject. This section has little to do with the rest of this part of the speech at all, and there is an incoherence break, and repetition, possibly indicating it is not part of the script, its a digression and improvisation.
“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole… That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That’ll be the least of it.
Let us be clear. He could be referring metaphorically to Chinese and other car manufacturers. But it does not fit in with the rest of the speech at all. It seems to be a mind-flash, a real statement of what he feels…
We can either be charitable to man who has threatened violence to his opponents elsewhere and say this is about a fight to the death against manufacturing in Mexico, or we can treat it as a real threat to non-Trumpist American citizens. I think the second option is a better interpretation. He does not specify the country where the bloodbath is to take place, although it makes better sense in the context, to think he is referring to America.
So a few interpretative quotes to give my impression of what he is saying:
- “If I win, then the Chinese car manufacturers will suffer because I will do 100% tariffs…”
- “But if I don’t win that its going to be a bloodbath for the whole country.”
- “That will be the least of it.”
- “Getting back to the cars in Mexico, even Americans are going to move there if we don’t act….”
If you are a free market person you should be angry in either case.
Earlier in this speech he also engages in dehumanisation of people he does not like, ‘illegal immigrants,’ which is often a precursor to bloodbaths and death squads:
But I got to know all these people…. Young people, they’re in jail for years, if you call them people, I don’t know if you call them people. In some cases they’re not people in my opinion, but I’m not allowed to say that because the radical left says that’s a terrible thing to say. They say you have to vote against him because did you hear what he said about humanity? I’ve seen the humanity and these humanity, these are bad. These are animals and we have to stop it. We can’t have another Laken {a woman who was killed by an illegal person}. We have so many people. We have so many people being hurt so badly and being killed. They’re sending their prisoners to see us. And they’re bringing them right to the border and they’re dropping them off and we’re allowing them to come in.”
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We can also remember this recent mindflash in what seems an otherwise unscripted speech….
On Veterans Day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxist fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections and will do anything possible. They’ll do anything whether legally or illegally to destroy America and to destroy the American dream. The real threat is not from the radical, right? The real threat is from the radical left and it’s growing every day, every single day, the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, they’re not gonna want to play with us and they didn’t, despite the hatred and anger of the radical left lunatics who want to destroy our country, we will make America great again. Thank you, New Hampshire. God bless you. God bless you all. Thank you. God bless you all. Thank you.
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I don’t quite know what he is saying about Russia, China etc. That the radical left stop us playing with them?
But the threat of him, when he wins, purging the USA of people who disagree with him seems clear, and it should threaten everyone as the number of Marxists and communists in the USA is trivial and they are not very powerful or influential, unlike the radical right. He appears to confuse fascists with the left, but that is common for the right, who ignore the people waving swastikas at their rallies, or even encourage them. I guess because of their mutual sympathy.
So, on the whole, to me, it sounds most likely that Trump is threatening a bloodbath in the USA, whether he wins or not. This is compatible with his often expressed desire for revenge. Some people may think that this bloodbath will lead to a peaceful and functional country, rather than to accelerated collapse.