Posts Tagged ‘ecology’

Agenda 47: Lets make more climate change and eco destruction

June 8, 2024

As a neoliberal, Trump gets really upset about climate change being used ‘politically’ to encourage energy transition, cut back the burning of fossil fuels, helping electric cars or promoting corporate responsibility. The only responsibility that Corporations have is to make money, and that can never destroy their ability to survive.

To Recap: Agenda 47 gives Trump’s official policies, many of which are also present in the corporate manifesto Project 2025. They seem to be heavily oriented towards crushing dissent.

This section considers his ecological and climate attitudes.

Against Corporate Responsibility and Shareholder action

He makes it clear by his non-political support of free speech that it should be forbidden for shareholders to ask companies not to destroy the environment. The sole moral responsibility of companies is to make profit. That’s all; not to be safe for workers, not protect the communities they operate in, not consider the effects of their actions on others, or whatever, just make profit.

When President Trump returns to the White House, he will immediately ban ESG [Environmental, social, and governance] investments through executive order and work with Congress to enact a permanent ban.

“When I’m back in the White House, I will sign an executive order and, with Congress’ support, a law to keep politics away from America’s retirement accounts forever.”

The entire ESG scheme is designed to funnel your retirement money to the maniacs on the radical left.

But pensions and retirement accounts with his radicalism and incompetence, they’re going down and they’re going down big and nobody’s seen anything like it.

I will demand that funds invest your money to help you, not them, but to help you. Not to help the radical left communists, because that’s exactly what they are. I will once again protect our seniors, just like I did before, from the woke left and the woke left is bad news. They destroy countries.

Agenda47: President Trump Continues to Lead on Protecting Americans from Radical Leftist ESG Investments
February 25, 2023

ESG simply means asking companies not to destroy the environment that people (including old people) live in, to pay fair wages, not defraud people, adhere to labour laws, factor in the risks of their actions and be transparent and responsible. However, this will be prevented.

Under Trumps laws, no one, including shareholders will be able to ask companies to stop destroying things or poisoning people, apparently because not destroying things and not exploiting workers, is a radical leftism which destroys countries. It should also be remembered that shareholders are company owners, and that if they cannot influence what their companies do, other than support them going for more profit, then that is a fairly odd definition of capitalist property rights.

It seems that, for Trump, it is disloyal to America to challenge corporate power, while siding with corporate power is completely non-political. All those who disagree are “radical left communists, because that’s exactly what they are.” Asking companies to disclose climate risks is also criminal.

Against Recognising Corporate Climate Risk

In May 2021, Biden issued an Executive Order that required federal agencies to define “climate-related financial risk to the financial stability of the… U.S. financial system” which led the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to require private companies to publicly disclose climate-related risks.

This ruling will force companies to share with investors their estimated impact on the environment, which will allow climate crusaders in investment firms to punish companies that do not conform to their radical environmental agenda.

Agenda47: America Must Have the #1 Lowest Cost Energy and Electricity on Earth
September 07, 2023

Apparently looking at climate related risk is too big a risk for corporate liberty to pollute and harm people, to be requested.

More Fossil Fuels

Given Trump being against people acting within the normal rules of capitalism, and effectively putting an end to shareholder motions requesting responsibility, it is not surprising that his energy policy is more fossil fuels, despite the warnings about what this will produce.

He states:

“Joe Biden’s war on American energy is one of the key drivers of the worst inflation in 58 years, and it’s hitting every single American family very, very hard… Biden reversed every action I took that achieved energy independence and soon we were going to be energy dominant all over the world.”

Agenda47: President Trump on Making America Energy Independent Again February 09, 2023

Let us ignore that Biden has pushed for the greatest expansion of American fossil fuel production ever, and presided over huge increases in profits for oil companies [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]: that is not enough for Trump.

Nobody has more liquid gold under their feet than the United States of America. And we will use it and profit by it and live with it. And we will be rich again and we will be happy again. And we will be proud again. Thank you very much.

So lets burn more oil and make things harder for non-rich people by encouraging climate change.

On Day One, President Trump will rescind every one of Joe Biden’s industry-killing, jobs-killing, pro-China and anti-American electricity regulations.

China is being made into an enemy, and trying to go against Republican fossil fuel ideology is traitorous.

President Trump will DRILL, BABY, DRILL.

President Trump will remove all red tape that is leaving oil and natural gas projects stranded, including speeding up approval of natural gas pipelines into the Marcellus Shale in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and New York.

Yes we don’t have to worry about whether going after shale oil and gas will damage people, water or whatever, we just have to support fossil fuels and the profits they generate. People who might think this is not automatically good, or who protest, will presumably be told they are not real Americans but woke Marxists, and removed.

Stopping Legal Protest

President Trump will stop the wave of frivolous litigation from environmental extremists that hold up critical energy development projects for years, increase project costs, and discourage future development.

Agenda47: America Must Have the #1 Lowest Cost Energy and Electricity on Earth
September 07, 2023

It should not be a surprise to find out that people’s legal ability to protest and disagree with the demands of corporations is denounced as illegitimate and to be prevented. People should obey and curb their speech before their masters. They know nothing, and should have no power to disagree.

Against Climate Agreements and China

Biden is bad because:

he reentered the horrendous Paris Climate Accord, so unfair to the United States, good for other countries, so bad for us. He put up huge roadblocks to new oil, gas and coal production and much, much more…. The country that now benefits most from Joe Biden’s radical left Green New Deal is China.

President Trump will once again exit the horrendously unfair Paris Climate Accords and oppose all of the radical left’s Green New Deal policies that are designed to shut down the development of America’s abundant energy resources, which exceed any country’s in the world, including Russia and Saudi Arabia.

Agenda47: America Must Have the #1 Lowest Cost Energy and Electricity on Earth
September 07, 2023

We know by now that we should not expect evidence, but the point seems to be that the current COP agreement involves possible cuts to fossil fuel production, and thus should be repudiated, no matter what the consequences. Corporate profit is the fundamentally important thing. Oddly he uses a justice argument to excuse this, the agreement is unfair…. Fairness presumably means powerful people and countries should do what they like. I guess that by attacking the ‘green new deal’ he is objecting to providing jobs by helping the energy transition. Fossil fuels have to remain the main source of US energy.

As you know, China paid hundreds of billions of dollars to the United States when I was president.

I presume this means the tariffs on Chinese goods, which Americans paid, not the Chinese. It is possible that China lost some deals, but they did not directly pay any money to the US because of the tariffs. We might hope a President would realise this, so I suspect the idea he is referring to tariffs is wrong.

Against EVs

Trump is opposed to electric cars, and people making a choice.

Because EVs cost an average of TWICE as much as gas-powered vehicles, take longer to fully charge, and have shorter ranges, almost two-thirds of Americans prefer their next car purchase to be a gas-powered vehicle, nearly half of all car dealerships would never sell an EV, and about half of current EV owners plan to switch back to a gas-powered car.

This is probably one reason why Elon Musk is attempting to cozy up to Trump. He realises that if Biden wins, he will be no worse off, but if Trump wins, EVs might be banned or taxed or put out of action, to protect fossil fuels.

Carbon Capture and Storage

Trump does make a few sensible statements.

According to two 2022 studies, the vast majority of CCS projects have underperformed or failed to date and hydrogen blending is plagued with safety and effectiveness concerns

This is true, but in context, it means that even symbolic attempts to reduce emissions should not be allowed.

So in summary:

Basically most of Trump’s Agenda 47 policies take the attitude that anyone who disagrees with him should be dismissed, punished, or prevented from acting.

This does imply that, whether he claims to be or not, he will act as a dictator and attempt to purge the USA of the liberty of dissent, and prolong ecological destruction and climate change.

Agenda 47 makes clear:

  • Trump is fighting non-existent ‘communists’, and those he calls ‘woke.’ Both terms seem to mean people he does not like or who disagree with him.
  • He is enthusiastic about protecting America from free speech he does not like.
  • People who disagree or inconvenience him are not real Americans.
  • The DoJ should support him, and the Party, alone, and go after people he does not like.
  • Education should only reinforce Republican doctrine as anything else is political.
  • Attempts to recognise that the USA has a history of racism, are racist.
  • Corporations should have free rip, particularly oil companies, and people (even shareholders) should not be free to object to corporate behavior, or attempt to alter it it.
  • He opposes any ideas that people should protect America (or the world) from environmental destruction, as such protection is Marxist.
  • Fossil fuels must be the only energy source to be protected.
  • He wants to stack the government with pro-Trumpists so he will never hear anything he does not like..

This, seems a complete recipe for destruction. Under Trump the USA will not face its real problems, although it may try to crush people who recognize those problems as only Marxists and Woke people would notice them and want to solve them.

Part 1: (Back) Justice

Part 2 (Back) Education

Steps towards solving the ecological crisis?

May 11, 2024

Start thinking in terms of complex systems and Barry Commoner’s four laws of ecology which are rephrased below..

The original formulation:

  • Everything Is Connected To Everything Else
  • Everything Must Go Somewhere
  • There Is No Such Thing as a Free Lunch
  • Nature Knows Best

Reformulated they can become

  • Everything is connected to everything else.
    • Everything is systemically complex and interacting at some level or other.
    • Hardin adds, as a corollary, that “We can never merely do one thing.” Most actions will have multiple effects, most of which we ignore.
  • All processes produce ‘by-products’ which have to go somewhere (usually on this planet).
    • If they don’t support life they probably harm it. Commoner states: “In every natural system, what is excreted by one organism as waste is taken up by another as food,” and “The absence of a particular substance from nature, is often a sign that it is incompatible with the chemistry of life.” Not thinking about this is a major cause of illth production
  • Acting requires energy, materials and consequences, which affects affecting ecologies.
    • Action does not come out of nowhere, with no cost. Commoner writes: “Because the global ecosystem is a connected whole, in which nothing can be gained or lost and which is not subject to over-all improvement, anything extracted from it by human effort must be replaced.”
    • It also points to physical entropy – every built object and organisation requires energy use to maintain.
  • Nature does it best.
    • Commoner writes: Most “major man-made change in a natural system is likely to be detrimental to that system.” It also implies that nature may be able to fix ecological problems better than humans, although the idea of maladaptive systems needs to be kept in mind.

So with these principles in mind we might need to:

Realize there are no humanly produced externalities to the human world. If we poison and destroy the world we are poisoning and destroying ourselves. Everything Is Connected To Everything Else. Everything Must Go Somewhere. There Is No Such Thing as a Free Lunch

It should be recognised that some recyclable products can be produced in such quantities that they overwhelm the recycling capacity of the economy or the planet, becoming pollution. CO2 is a good example.

Phase in laws to stop all forms of production, organisation, activity, business or agriculture from harming the environment whether it is producing greater profits or not. This will not be easy, and it will have unintended consequences, but its a guideline to aim towards.

Prohibit dumping into the sea.

Phase in laws that insist that organisations and production which harm environments remediate them as soon as possible. Make sure the business puts money aside as the project continues, so that they can’t escape the costs through bankruptcy. If the land cannot be remediated then stop the production. This again will be resisted. The fact that it is resisted shows something about the systems we have in place. There Is No Such Thing as a Free Lunch

Remediation should involve restoring the ecology to as close as possible to its previous levels of complexity. Planting a monoculture of grass or trees is not remediation. Planting and abandoning the planting to die, is not remediation. Nature Knows Best

Companies will almost certainly try and pull out before they face the costs and leave the taxpayers with the costs, hence the phase in, to allow them to adapt, and start remediation. However, even if they just stop the harm that will be good. There Is No Such Thing as a Free Lunch

Stop massive deforestation, and any further cutting of non previously cut forests. That should follow from the attempts to stop ecological harm.

Stop dispossessing people from their land. This is far commoner than we might think.

Reduce pollution and make the waste from all operations recyclable by ecologies or economies. This also should follow from stopping ecological harm.

Scrap the production of objects (intentionally or unintentionally) which cannot be processed, back to their initial components by existing bacteria, or other natural processes, or which are poisonous to humans.

it might be useful to encourage laws which make it compulsory for the input to factories and businesses to include the output, to give them an incentive to clean up the output. Everything Must Go Somewher

Stopping pollution is more important than financial compensation, but such compensation should be payable to those who have been damaged by pollution.

Make sure there is a fund so that polluted communities can afford to deal with those that pollute them, and get recompense.

This list of things implies:

  • Reduction of GHG emission especially from agriculture and burning fossil fuels..
  • regenerative agriculture or regenerative ecology to fix soils and ecologies, as similarly to natural processes as possible.
  • Scrapping meat feedlots unless the pollution can be controlled and diminished

The aim is to stop activity which destroys or harms life on the planet and disrupts the planetary cycles.

The worse climate change gets, the more expensive it will be to stop making the climate even worse.

Complexity, Neoliberalism and Generosity

April 6, 2024

Neoliberalism can, in its cosmology, seem to recognise complexity, but this may be a delusion as it also seems to involve a politics of enforced corporate dominance, which is incompatible with complexity. It generally is inferior, as an approach to ecological catastrophe, to what I’ve called climate generosity.

Complexity

So first of all, let us list some of the points recognised by a complexity based cosmology.

  • 1) Flux
  • 2) Multiple interactions
  • 3) So complicated that knowledge is distributed, a simplification and uncertain.
  • 4) Small changes make large differences. Tippling points can change the system.
  • 5) Limited predictability in human terms.
  • 6) Systems (as categorised by humans) intermesh, and cannot be isolated from one another
  • 7) Systems display both emergent order and emergent maladaptation from other points of view.
  • 8) Resilience requires diversity of response, biodiversity is good etc.
  • 9) Planning enforced by humans of limited understanding may not generate the results intended and is probably harmful.

Neoliberalism and Complexity

Neoliberalism appears to recognise a complex cosmos. It recognises uncertain and distributed knowledge but tries to reduce all knowledge to the price system, even if the price system can only cover things that are for sale, and is distorted by corporations teaming up to profiteer or remove new competitors, internal sales, transfer pricing, advertising, hype and propaganda, below cost competitive discounting to drive out competitors and so on. It pretends that local members of a corporation can always react to local knowledge rather than to top-down direction.

It recognises that centralised planning is problematic, but supports corporate planning, and plans to stop any ‘unlimited democratic’ control to restrain corporate action for the general good. It often appears to claim the ecological system is controllable, linear, isolated and can be repaired or replaced. It suppresses the search for unintended consequences. This will likely prevent desired futures from emerging.

It does not recognise that systems overlap and influence each other. The corporate economy is supposed to dominate ecologies rather than operate within ecologies. Contemporary neoliberalism may well have risen to powerful as a tool to overcome ecological movements, and demands for lower and less harmful pollution and less destructive forms of extraction, and hence challenges to corporate operations. Oil companies ignored their own research showing that burning fossil fuels promoted climate change, and promoting increased usage. Potential tipping points to ecological upheaval are ignored. Neoliberal political parties seem largely hostile to environmentalism, except when it can delay renewables. Property is ripped out of its connective social and ecological background of existence, to make it restricted.

Neoliberalism does not value diversity. It supports corporate organisation and the heteronormative nuclear family operating within the market. It does not support varied families, community action, non-market activity, or non-market power structures. While neoliberalism recognises ‘spontaneous order,’ it generally supports and enforces market based orders, rather than recognise flux.

Complexity and climate generosity

On the other hand generosity is happy with flux and multiple interactions. It assumes local people have the best knowledge but may need help to get going. It hopes that small local actions can lead to system change, it does not have to enforce change. It also recognises that the system may be shifting into maladaption for social organisation and that is an incentive to support emergent local resilience and diverse responses. Generosity can easily assume human and ecological interaction, and even the ‘ecology’s generosity’ which requires a generous rather than exploitative response, and does not require ecologies to be submissive to human needs. It does not have to engage in forceful planning, as its basis is to help people do things they want to do to help themselves.

Summary

Despite indications neoliberalism might be compatible with complexity, its political attempts to reduce everything to capitalism undermines any potential connections, and undermines its ability to deal with the climate change and eco-upheaval it generates. It will continue to largely ignore the problems and postpone action.

Climate generosity, seems not only an effective non-delay tactic, but one which is more compatible with the apparent complex nature of the world.


Water loss

March 29, 2024

It is frequently reported that human society, capitalism, developmentalism, the polluter elite, etc are destroying the planets capacity to regenerate the resources we are taking from it. At the moment, it is estimated we have used up everything by August 2. The rest of the year involves plunder and destruction and lowers the date for the consumption of regenerable resources, next year and so on.

This is a problem when we come to basic survival supplies, like water….

Ground water loss

the amounts of fresh water and their rate of adequacy, is hard to estimate, rains etc vary, but the UN has just reported the following. And I quote directly.

(Groundwater depletion).

Groundwater is an essential freshwater resource stored in underground reservoirs called “aquifers”. These aquifers supply drinking water to over 2 billion people, and around 70 per cent of withdrawals are used for agriculture. However, more than half of the world’s major aquifers are being depleted faster than they can be naturally replenished. As groundwater accumulates over thousands of years, it is essentially a non-renewable resource. The tipping point in this case is reached when the water table falls below a level that existing wells can access. Once crossed, farmers will no longer have access to groundwater to irrigate their crops. This not only puts farmers at risk of losing their livelihoods, but can also lead to food insecurity and put entire food production systems at risk of failure.

emphasis added

This is likely to generate a ‘risk tipping point’ which increases the likelihood of cascading failure involving other dangers, see below.

Losses of ground water have already affected some countries

In the mid-1990s, Saudi Arabia was the world’s sixth- largest wheat exporter, based on the large-scale extraction of groundwater for irrigation. But once the wells ran dry, Saudi Arabian wheat production dropped and they had to rely on wheat imported from elsewhere. Other countries, like India, are not far from approaching this risk tipping point, too.

Another source of problems for ground water includes mining operations, especially fracking which cracks rocks and mixes substances from different layers. While this can be protected against for some years, if all the cracks are sealed off, there will come a time when the sealants break, and pollutants start permeating aquifers. So that water that remains in the aquifers may no longer be drinkable. Carbon Capture and Storage also risks contaminating water supplies.

Other Water Loss

Loss of fresh water supply is also threatened by the decline in Mountain glaciers through increased heat. These glaciers source most of the world’s great rivers, and water shortages are expected to trigger wars. This diminishment of water supply, so it will never be as great as it was, can be called ‘peak water’.

Peak water has already passed or is expected to occur within the next 10 years for many of the small glaciers in Central Europe, western Canada or South America. In the Andes, where peak water has already passed for many glaciers, communities are now grappling with the impacts of unreliable water sources for drinking water and irrigation.

There are also issues of water storage in dams because of increased evaporation levels due to the increased heat.

In Australia we have been watching our rivers die for years, as irrigation appears to strip so much water from them, they can no longer function. This could lead to the collapse of inland agriculture and, of course, country towns.

Tipping points

The idea of a risk tipping point is fairly simple.

There are different kinds of tipping points. For example, “climate tipping points” are tipping points after after which unstoppable changes occur which influence global climate and stop it reverting back to what has been historically normal. Examples of such tipping points include the melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet, the release of methane from unfreezing tundra, the shifting of ocean currents, the rise in water vapour in the air. Some of these tipping points may have even occured even without rising temperatures, such as the human clearing of the Amazon and other large rainforests which will likely change rainfall patterns, as well as producing species extinction. Overfishing the oceans which could leave them dying.

A risk tipping point occurs when a “given socioecological system is no longer able to buffer risks and provide its expected functions” or when we have killed resilience, slack and redundancy in the social system and harmed its ability to bounce back to normal equilibria. If this happens “the risk of catastrophic impacts to these systems increases substantially”.

In an interconnected world the impacts of risk tipping points such as this are felt globally, as they cause ripple effects through food systems, the economy and the environment. They affect the very structure of our society and the well-being of future generations, and they also affect our ability to manage future risks. Groundwater, for instance, is relied upon to mitigate half of the agricultural losses caused by drought, a scenario we can expect to occur more often at many places in the future, due to climate change. If the groundwater has been depleted, this is an option we will no longer have.

So starvation, death, rampant inflation of food prices, food riots and so on can be expected to result from loss of water.

Given the world’s largely neoliberal regimes and their belief in markets, we can expect that the rich, and corporations, will try to purchase the water they need and take it away from others.

Privatization can be a problem

People will have heard of the UKs water problems. Given the country’s fame for rain, this is almost unbelievable, but water cleanliness is being destroyed by privatisation and the urge for profit.

UK rivers are full of sewage. the number of people admitted to hospital with waterborne diseases has risen by 60% since 2010. Data suggests that raw sewage was discharged into rivers and hence into the Seas, for 3.6m hours in 2023, doubling over the previous year.

The government has given water companies until 2035 to reduce the amount of sewage flowing into bathing water and ecologically important areas, but other discharges could continue until until 2050.

Perhaps not surprisingly Water companies increased profits from this bad performance. In 2022-23, they made £1.7bn in pre-tax profits, up 82% since 2018-19, when they made £955m. They also plan to increase water bills by up to 40%, to pay for cleaning up and debt payments. Over the last 30 or so years Thames Water has paid £7.2bn in dividends, and taken out £14.7bn in debt – some of which is likely to have gone on dividends. Between 1990 and 2023, English water companies have paid out a total of £53bn in dividends, meaning that they have given almost the same amount to shareholders as they currently have in debt.

Guardian 28 Feb 2024

In the US testing by the Environmental Protection agency has found that about 70 million people are exposed to toxic “forever chemicals” in their drinking water. However, the testing only covers one-third of the USA’s public water systems, so the total figures could be much higher. Independent estimates put the total at around 200 million people having tainted water. Likewise, parts of the water supply in the USA are heavily contaminated with cattle waste from huge feedlots. According to the Minnesota pollution control agency, nearly 70% of the state’s water pollution comes from crop and livestock production, and the pollution also affects groundwater wells.

Both shortage of fresh water and unpolluted fresh water will increase the problems of population increase. To feed the extra 2 billion or so people being, we may need to double the water supplies for irrigation.

Conclusion

As many as 4 billion people are already exposed to water stress conditions for at least one month a year. The natural ecosystems that provide clean water and alleviate floods and other risks — such as forests, mangroves and wetlands — are degrading and disappearing at alarming rates. Demand for water is projected to increase by up to 30% by 2050, while water-related conflicts and political instability are on the rise. And climate change is worsening the problem, intensifying floods and droughts, shifting precipitation patterns and fueling sea level rise.

World Resources Institute Securing Freshwater for All

This essentially human-based weakening of survival systems, is the real mark of the Anthropocene.

The more parts of the global system become precarious the more likely a system cascade will eventuate, in which a failure of one system generates failures in other systems which then reinforce the original failure and so on.

Increased rain, in some places, may be captured rather than simply flood and destroy towns, but that would require vast engineering works. A large building program for filtration and desalination plants may be necessary, although it seems improbable nowadays.

We have to stop destroying natural systems, and possibly risk building new kludge systems to deal with the destruction we have generated.

Population is the Problem?

January 21, 2024

There are many people apparently trying to blame climate change entirely on population growth in China and India and elsewhere, or on migrants from those countries to ‘developed’ countries.

Let us be clear population will certainly be a problem if we expect everyone to pollute and destroy like people in the ‘Western, developed world’ and it will be a problem if it gets big enough no matter what, but it is not the only problem, or the “everything issue” as its promoters often claim. As such focus on population tends to be a distraction from other issues.

In complex systems, Everything is the everything issue.

Focusing on one thing that does not cause ‘us‘ to change, or to think about change, in our daily lives and political systems is a diversion – we live in an ecological system of problems not just one problem. Promoting ‘population as the (only) problem’ causes us to ignore the ways we Australians, or other ‘developed peoples,’ have been acting to bring about ecological and climate disaster for ourselves and others for a long time (at least over 200 years), despite our relatively low populations.

Strangely, people campaigning against population and those migrants who increase local populations rarely campaign against migrants from the UK or America who are moving their pollution footprint here and making our country much less habitable. They campaign against migrants from China, or India, who have comparatively low footprints, and whom we might learn from.

Population is not just a distraction but a defense mechanism, to say that our country is ok, we are good and don’t really have to do anything other than attack other people.

Why not campaign for Australians to stop breeding as well, if our population is the problem?

Likewise, population campaigners rarely mention exports of Australian, or American, or UK, fossil fuels, which will take temperatures up directly throughout the world. Perhaps its just a matter of not blaming us for anything?

Why not campaign against the political structures which make it much harder to launch renewable sites than to launch more highly polluting and poisoning coal or gas mines? Even if our population crashed, those mines would still contribute to the world’s problems. Focusing on population is another way of not blaming us, or not taking responsibility for what our countries contribute, and have contributed, to the growing challenges.

Why not campaign for lower fossil fuel usage in our own country? Unless its about not taking responsibility, and not doing anything ourselves. Its not our fault, we don’t have to do anything.

Why not promote responsibility in Australia for our own pollution? If twenty poorer Indians make less pollution than one Australian, or whatever the current figure is, then we are the problem. But “Don’t blame us”.

Why not point to the forests we are clearing, the land we are poisoning, the top soil we are stripping, the rivers we are making unusuable, the underground water we are fouling? We have been destroying the country and subsidising companies to do this destruction, since Westerners arrived here. This is not the fault of modern immigrants, or of massive population. It has always been the case. It is our system that is the problem.

Why not campaign against the economic system that demands increasing migration, instead of the expense of teaching locals skills and capacities? The economic system also seems to be prepared to chuck older people on the scrap heap, if there is no growing population (rather than corporate profits) to tax, or cheap labour? Why ignore the economic system that depends on fossil fuel sales, and fossil fuel use? Perhaps its not just about not blaming ‘us’, but not challenging the economic powers of the country and giving them an excuse.

The way population is used in supposed climate campaigns, seems to be just a comforting way of blaming other people, rather than getting on with what we should be doing and cutting back on the way we already over-stress our environment. It is not just a defense mechanism, or a distraction, but a deadly distraction that allows destruction to continue.

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Some one responded that there is no way 11 billion people is not a problem, and that academics are deceptive…

However, no one is saying that endless population increase is not a problem or we should ignore it. It is a problem, but it seems to be being used by some people as a complete distraction from doing anything else.

And what is it that we can do about population increase anyway?

Should we be murdering people en mass? Encouraging pandemics to wipe them out? Have a nuclear war? We know having educated female populations is good for population control. And according to Wiki pedia:

Population growth has declined mainly due to the abrupt decline in the global total fertility rate, from 5.3 in 1963 to 2.3 in 2021. The decline in the total fertility rate has occurred in every region of the world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_decline

Scientific American states:

China’s population has fallen after decades of sky-high growth… the United Nations predicts dozens of countries will have shrinking populations by 2050… But if you listen to economists (and Elon Musk), you might believe falling birthrates mean the sky is falling as fewer babies means fewer workers and consumers driving economic growth.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/population-decline-will-change-the-world-for-the-better/

If we are interested in climate change as a symptom of population alone, then we should try and wipe out the most heavily polluting populations, like those in the USA and Australia? If not why not?

[The answer seems relatively clear…. we don’t complain about, or wipe out, Australia and the USA, because that affects us…]

Being responsible adults, shouldn’t we be changing the way we and our societies, behave, rather than demand that other people change?

Why not try and stop new fossil fuel fields coming online in Australia, to destabilise the world? Why not try and lower our own social footprints? Why not help other countries install renewables as well as get on with it here? Why not try fixing the economy so the bosses do not demand population increase?

There are many things we can do about climate. Focusing on population does not help us do them.

William Shattner on Earth and Space

October 12, 2022

I guess many people will have seen William Shattner’s response to his space journey, but just in case….

“I love the mystery of the universe. I love all the questions that have come to us over thousands of years of exploration and hypotheses … [but] when I looked in the opposite direction, into space, there was no mystery, no majestic awe to behold … all I saw was death,”

“Everything I had thought was wrong. Everything I had expected to see was wrong,….. “I had thought that going into space would be the ultimate catharsis of that connection I had been looking for between all living things – that being up there would be the next beautiful step to understanding the harmony of the universe.”

“I discovered that the beauty isn’t out there, it’s down here, with all of us. Leaving that behind made my connection to our tiny planet even more profound.”

“It was among the strongest feelings of grief I have ever encountered. The contrast between the vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of Earth below filled me with overwhelming sadness.

“Every day, we are confronted with the knowledge of further destruction of Earth at our hands: the extinction of animal species, of flora and fauna … things that took 5bn years to evolve, and suddenly we will never see them again because of the interference of mankind. It filled me with dread.

“My trip to space was supposed to be a celebration; instead, it felt like a funeral.”

Summary of Praxeology post

July 7, 2022

This is trying to say much the same as the last post in a much less formal and much briefer manner

The point of praxeology is to make our axioms, suppositions, hypotheses, observations, and deductions obvious and open to criticism, so we can progress our understanding as we encounter new events and new understandings.

Capitalism is a set of social organisations of ‘forms’ or ‘systems’ of life

Human life occurs within interacting systems. The basic system on which all others depend are the planetary ecological systems. The capacity of human life depends on the functionality of these systems.

Propositions on Profit

Monetary profit seeking does not seem to be a sufficiently complex concept to drive a functional economic system. [People have many aims beyond profit.]

Monetary profit seeking appears to drive non-functional or even pathological systems, which delete human capacities, reduce most humans to machines for cheap labour, set up plutocratic forms of government and induce confusion and ignorance over vital information and understandings of problems.

Whatever pro-corporate economics says. there are no externalities to the planetary system, and any economics which considers pollution external to its own working, will cultivate non-functionality and death. It is useful to remember Ruskin’s idea of illth. Profit seeking will often produce externalised illth.

Continual enlargement of profit, company or economy is likely to be impossible, and should be treated with suspicion as generating non-functionality and destruction.

Freeloading

Freeloading seems inevitable in profit seeking and profit enlargement economies, and is harmful to social development, constructive co-operation and ecological functionality

Prices

Competition is imperfect and difficult because of the information system, and because of risk (companies are not providing exactly the same products).

Historical Digression: Trajectories of Capital accumulation

Differences in access to capital accumulation are not just the result of virtue, or productive talent as claimed by most pro-capitalist economic theory, but of a history of violence, theft and murder.

The advertised benefits of capitalism have largely been brought about by worker co-operation, threat of revolution and by becoming a market. The benefits have not been brought about by capitalists.

Proposition: Human Competition and Co-operation

Humans are both competitive and co-operative. Most pro-capitalists economics ignores co-operation between the wealth elites, against the working classes, but its important.

Propositions on power and economic action

Wealth is a basis for power.

Capitalism generates a situation of unequal wealth and hence unequal power – especially when the Wealth elites co-operate against the ‘lower classes’

Proposition: ‘Crony Capitalism’ and ‘State Capture’ are inevitable

Crony capitalism is normal and leads to State Capture or State Takeover – plutocracy. Capitalists use their wealth and power to shape the State to serve what they think are their best ends….

Wealth gives power, liberty and capacity; and inequality of wealth gives inequality of power liberty and capacity.

Siding with the elites

Some working people side with the capitalist class through taking managerial positions – however this may not lessen their vulnerability.

Power in the ‘Marketplace’

Power differentials affect market transactions and satisfactions.

Information system

Capitalism inherently confuses the information system by using it for advertising, PR, lies, etc., and by doing so, lowers that system’s capacity to provide useful and accurate information. This undermines the response of the wealth elites, and the polity as a whole, to real problems.

Information mess likely exists within most corporate bodies as well as in the more public sphere.

The information system is confused by normal action, so that various forms of market and social collapse are usually surprising.

Markets, Relationships and Trust (Morals?)

Human non-capitalist economies are as much about relationship and co-operation as monetary exchange. Exchange of money may defeat relationship.

Uncertainty and experimental politics

Uncertainty is normal in life and information incomplete even in the best circumstances. Hence policies should be regarded as experiments rather than as dogma. Attention should be paid to after-events in order to refine the actions and understandings.

Returning to systems

We live within systems. Individuals appear in systems of interactions.

The primary political need seems to be to recognise that we need functional ecologies in order to have functional economic systems, functional political systems and so on. Tending to ecologies is a fundamental political act that needs encouragement.

If we kill, or unrecoverably disrupt, our ecologies then the likelihood of us humans having much of a future severely diminishes….

Summary of the opening of Capitalism in Crisis

October 28, 2021

Charles Hampden-Turner, Linda O’Riordan and Fons Trompenaars have recently released a two volume work Capitalism in Crisis. This deserves some attention as they are all established business writers, who want to recognise problems with capitalism, and fix them. This is not radical left stuff, it is also fairly simple.

Here I will simply summarise the opening salvo, because its not available online as far as I can see, and I think it deserves some publicity. If this felt to contravene copyright by either authors or publishers please contact me via the comments. I clearly do not make money from this action.

Shareholder dominance = Shareholder extraction

Firstly they point out that wealth is created by all the people in the production/distribution/sales process working together. They call these people ‘stakeholders’. I personally strongly dislike this term but, despite being business writers, they Do NOT limit the term to people within or invested in the business, as is usual, and include people such as:

employees, suppliers, customers the community, the government, the environment and the shareholders.

They emphasise that while shareholders are important, they should be the last to benefit.

they can only collect what the other stakeholders have created between them.

Without the work of others there is nothing for shareholders. However, the system has now been [politically] structured so that shareholders get priority, and they tend to increase their percentage of their wealth generated at the expense of other stakeholders, therefore reducing the percentages that go elsewhere. [This priority is often explicit in business talk: “we must look after our shareholders” “Our sole responsibility is to our shareholders” and so on. ]

The authors allege that this set-up decreases productivity and innovation, probably as there are fewer rewards within the business itself, and less constructive connection with communities outside.

As we have seen repeatedly, companies engage in share buy backs, pushing the share prices up, and allowing managers who have been rewarded with shares to sell back to the companies on a rising market. It helps actions which temporarily drive up the share price, but weaken the company in the long run – such as sacking experienced staff. Going by the share price, and for maximum leanness or profit now, does little for company robustness or resilience.

Another problem is that those companies who spend money on improving themselves and their staff, in researching problems, and improving products, don’t give as good shareholder returns, and the share price often becomes cheap (not a good investment) and raiders can buy them up, and strip the spending away, funneling it back to the shareholders which now includes themselves. [Or they can engage in asset stripping, as was big in the Reagan years, in which components of the firms are sold off for more than the company is valued on the share market. The killing is made, and the often productive company destroyed.]

Money

Is the purpose of industry to make money? Or is the purpose of money to make industry?

“Industry” by which the authors seem to mean collaborative building or making, is what generates wealth. It needs money, but once its purpose becomes to make money then it can be hampered, as people focus on the money rather than on problems or the building – [the easiest route to personal benefit becomes selected, rather than company benefit]. Innovation is hampered because little monetary reward is given to innovations which are not directed or anticipated by superiors. Money can support innovation but not create it out of nothing.

Money by itself is sterile. No two coins ever created a third coin or ever will.

Money gives a single focus on getting more of it, or more ‘goods’. Past financial results govern predications of what will happen, and the push towards future performance, rather than paying attention to what is happening in the world – and this includes exploitation and destruction of our environment. Yet:

the unit of survival includes our environment and we will sink together.

Finally people try to control finance, which is impossible [it is a complex system], and company efforts to rigorously control its finance or the finance of the world further disorganises the company and the world financial system. [Although it is not discussed here, this can generate the problem of “debt capitalism” [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8] (please note that many analysts reduce the total debt to GDP ratio by not including private debt which is important and nowadays seems to compare with government debt). Debt gives corporations ‘energy’ and financial stability, but eventually the debt grows to such an extent that it overwhelms the productive economy: growth comes from increasing debt rather than from production of useful items; property prices inflate and so on. Eventually, the system, or the currencies of the world, will probably have to collapse, and billions of middle class people will probably lose their savings and their homes.]

[This does not mean that companies should not look after their finances, but that over-control, or over-borrowing, can be disastrous. Finding the mean may not be easy]

The Wealth Cycle vs The Wealth-destruction cycle

In a wealth creating cycle, the focus is not just on profit to shareholders. Investors support the other stakeholders and then take a fair share of the wealth created between them all.

[Illth should also be minimalised, but this is hard in a primarily profit seeking environment, as harms are considered an externality or a bonus.]

In other words, wealth is encouraged by looking after the producers or increasing job satisfaction, rather than by treating producers as disposable servants or slaves. Good relationships are often important to human functioning, creativity and production.

In a wealth destruction cycle, relationships and good conditions are severed or destroyed by monetary concerns. The priority given to shareholders, means that they extract money from the other “stakeholders.” Wages are held down. Workers are threatened by redundancies. Workers are substituted for by machines, or by export of production overseas, and sacked. [A high unemployment rate, and low hyper-strictly monitored unemployment benefits, helps keep workers nervous and exhausted. Trainings become threatenings, consultation processes become enforcements.] R&D is cut as it often fails and is an expense. Supplier payments get delayed, and reliable, high-quality suppliers can be threatened if they do not cut prices. The tax payments which support the societies the companies use for earnings and production are minimised or avoided, often by complicated networks of ownership, overseas debt, transfer pricing and so on. Local environments, and living conditions, are destroyed, as few shareholders live in those environments, and its nearly always cheaper in the short-term to destroy.

The money is transferred away from workers upwards to shareholders, by the way the system is organised.

Shareholder focused management has conquered labour of all types, lowering wages (or increase in wages) for most people, and this means there is less money in circulation for basic products, which probably puts prices up to keep shareholders happy, which causes more poverty or precarity.

No wonder employees become disengaged, growth slows and world market-shares shrink. Wages in the US have flat-lined for a generation or more. There is growing resentment among people.

And the system that sets this problem up, then sets about blaming people [who have little power or responsibility, but who seem different]: migrants, refugees, [racial minorities, university professors, radical communists, feminists, scientists and so on, anything other than the managerial and shareholding elites.] This sets up a further hampering of the system, as real problems are not faced up to, especially if they cause corporate, or group based, unease.

Our means of controlling the anxiety generated by the system in which we live typically makes things worse – we become more alarmed by the scapegoats and suffer more from the real problems we ignore. This in turn leads to more escapism and less focus on real problems. For many the escapism comes through drugs, alcohol or consumption, which further hamper people’s ability to deal with reality and adds to their problems.

Mind-set, Re-set

The usual solution is to change world view, and indeed that is important. [We can see the effects of the change in which a billionaire becomes the hero of displaced Americans and then tries to steal an election. Whether this change in world view will generate any long term change or not, it has certainly altered things.]

So the ideology of the Industrial Age is giving way to an ideology for the Age of Nature, which is a possibility, [but it is being hard fought against, and on many fronts. Not only by corporations by by Religions, who insist that we are not part of the World, we are part of Spirit or Soul, or our residence is in heaven above. ] However, the Age of Nature implies that ‘we’:

must learn to sustain what sustains us.

rather than believing in The Market or a kind of deity that rewards prudence and punishes sloth.

[An ideology of the Age of Nature, involves what I have called thinking ecologically. That is thinking in terms of systems and interactions, and the ways systems change with changes elsewhere, they way that changes circle on themselves. To go back to the beginning point, shifting the economy so that it benefits shareholders and shareholder companies, changes the whole focus of the way the economy works. People near the bottom, are of little consequence, as they get little money, and are not deemed worthy of money. There is no sense, as there was in the 1950s, 60s and 70s that the economy was about improving life for all, or that if lower profits helped worker integration, power and enjoyment then that was worthwhile. see footnote below]

The economy is more like a tree or living system. Nature is circular, systemic, paradoxical and fractal…. the whole is inevitably more than its parts.

We cannot command other creatures without consequences. Process works in multiple loops: self-interest spurs our willingness to serve others and serving others is in our own self-interests.

The question is whether we can make that change to viewing things from an ecological perspective, rather than a “dominance of shareholder wealth perspective”? It will be difficult as so much benefit is geared to wealth. This is the ultimate problem of climate change,

The reason I quite like this approach is that it’s focus on how shareholders and some managers have levered the system to benefit themselves and destroy our ability to perceive the world reasonably accurately, reminds us that the solution to destructive capitalism can be political. Neoliberal ideology helped support the takeover of the old system of capitalism, which worked reasonably well, and helped support ordinary people. So a new political development may be able to restore a modified version of this older ‘state of the world.’ Otherwise we are faced with the unstable prospect of either crashing, or overthrowing capitalism and that leads to its own dangers…

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Footnote

From the Parliamentary library. Australian Conservative hero and deceased Prime Minister, Robert Menzies on social justice. In other words it is not necessary to live as we do:

“The country has great and imperative obligations to the weak, the sick, the unfortunate.  It must give to them all the sustenance and support it can.  We look forward to social and unemployment insurances, to improved health services, to a wiser control of our economy to avert if possible all booms and slumps which tend to convert labour into a commodity, to a better distribution of wealth, to a keener sense of social justice and social responsibility.  We not only look forward to these things; we shall demand and obtain them.  To every good citizen the State owes not only a chance in life but a self-respecting life.”

Menzies saw social justice as an issue of rights rather than charity.

“The purpose of all measures of social security…. is not only to provide citizens with some reasonable protection against misfortune but also to reconcile that provision with their proud independence and dignity as democratic citizens.  The time has gone when social justice should even appear to take the form of social charity.”

Charity is a benevolence to be given or withheld to supplicants at will.  Social justice is a defined right of respected citizens to social security in times of need.

Menzies, who had seen the excesses of laissez faire and the effects of boom and depression, rejected the view of government as merely “ holding the ring, while private enterprise fought and won on the basis of the fight going to the strongest and the devil take the hindmost ”.

Liberalism was not to be the servant of private enterprise.  Again and again, using remarkably similar words, Menzies rejected this notion.

“We stand for the dynamic community force of private enterprise; we are its protectors and encouragers but we are not its servants.  We prefer the live hand of the private entrepreneur to the dead hand of socialism; but if the individual is to have social and industrial justice and to be guarded against what might become the tyranny of the strong, private enterprise must accept its duties or even its burdens.”

Another source

the community has a definite responsibility to provide adequate security for individuals against the results of economic disaster. None of us accept any philosophy which says that those who fall by the wayside are to be left to fend for themselves.

The first answer to this foul doctrine of the ‘class war’ is to do all we can in a positive way to show both employers and employees that they work in a common enterprise, in which neither can succeed without the other, in which each should share in prosperity, in which the employer’s greatest asset is a body of contented employees who feel that they are understood and fairly treated, and the employee’s greatest asset is a successful business which can guarantee to him steady employment and expanding opportunities. We say to the employers of Australia that they have a great responsibility on this matter. One of the tragedies of modern large-scale industry is that the relations between employers and employees tend first to become remote, and then estranged and then embittered. The wage-earner in an industry is a human being whose welfare should be the care of the industry in which he co-operates. Legal duties and legal wages are not all. We have fallen behind advanced industrialised nations in our realisation that the personal factor in industry requires constant attention and a warm and sympathetic understanding. The best employers know this; but there are still too many who have failed to appreciate that an automatic resistance to all claims, and a belief that the only obligation to employees is to be found in minimum wages and conditions, are just as much an encouragement to the ‘class war’ as the subversive activities of mischievous agitators.

How can ‘Conservatives’ own Environmentalists?

July 12, 2021

Believe it or not, this is a real question from someone.

“Owning” is a weird term. I gather, from the way it is generally used, it means completely destroying the arguments and existence of the people you are opposing. It seems a violently anti-civic position and hence an anti-real-conservative position.

But let us assume it can mean winning over the other side…. in which case it is easy.

Conservatives could show they are more concerned about conserving the environment than they are concerned about conserving corporate profits.

They could openly wonder whether environmental and climate science might be correct enough for us to accept it in general.

They could ask whether humans can keep destroying the global ecology (or God’s creation, if you prefer) forever with no consequences.

They could wonder whether burning fossil fuels at the rate we are doing is necessary or helpful to conservation.

They could think about opposing new drilling sites for oil, new mines for coal, new gas fields, especially new extreme sites like coal tar, deep ocean drilling etc, and ask people to make do with what we already have. This would mean that some companies might have to change, which could make it awkward, but sometimes you have to stand up for what its right.

They could wonder if leaving environmentalism to the market has worked well enough over the last 30 years, and wonder whether, if it works in some cases, which are those cases and why.

They could wonder if markets better at producing upheaval than they are at producing conservation?

They could propose constructive solutions that they know are likely to be acceptable to the population in general and plausible. Not, for example, massive upgrades of nuclear power, or carbon capture and storage, which sadly are enormously expensive, seem to take a long time to set up, and if they have disasters have maximal disasters.

They could wonder why the environmental solutions my conservative government is promoting include: tree clearance; koala destruction; removing more water from almost dead rivers; more coal power and more methane power; more money for carbon capture; while opposing emissions targets and renewable energy targets and pretending the Great Barrier Reef is not in decline. This does not seem like environmentalism of any sort whatsoever.

Conservatives could decide that while it is difficult to be virtuous and go first, the developed world, including the US, the UK and Australia, should go first, because it is the right thing to do, and sets an example. If a group of countries won’t do it, then you have to stand up for the right thing anyway, rather than mutter about losing advantage, or it being unfair.

So all Conservatives have to do, is to take environmentalism seriously as a conservative task, engage in dialogue with other people, and there you are… We might even get something done.

Martin Buber: Psychoanalysis, Existentialism and ecology

May 7, 2021

Buber, the I, thou and it….

Martin Buber famously suggests that there are two main ways of relating: ‘I-thou’ and ‘I-it’; recognising that the ‘I’ exists within these relationships: “All real living is meeting”.

In the I-thou relationship we treat the other as an opening, a mystery, a being full of potential, full of value, which resists reduction to linguistic labels, which can modify us and be modified by us, which we have responsibility towards, offer respect towards, and so on. As we are open, we are vulnerable, so it involves a risk.

We attempt to encounter the other in their whole being; this may be impossible, but it is the aim. The relationship is mutual, possibly uncertain and ambiguous, because of its unpredictable and transformative possibilities.

In the I-it relationship the other is an object to be manipulated – the it is limited in its response, it rarely if ever opens us up, other than through what we do with it. It is an object, not another rich ‘subject’. We often tend to make our enemies its, then refuse to deal with them, and lock ourselves down. It is possible to suggest that the I becomes something of an impersonal it, when it treats an other as an it. However, much of life is easier if we treat some beings as ‘it’s, as when we build a lego object, change a light bulb, fill the car with petrol, and so on, so there is some ambiguity here – although perhaps all these it creations are forms of modern life.

This distinction seems a very simple point to make, but confusing the two, or extending the I-it relationship to situations in which it is not appropriate seems a major cultural flaw.

Psychoanalysis

You may think psychoanalysis is invalid for any number of reasons, but let us just look at one. Freud called unconscious processes the id, or the ‘it’. This automatically suggests unconscious processes are mechanical rather than subjects. The id is not something to be entered into relationship with, not something which can be plural or creative, but something repetitive to be manipulated, constrained, disciplined and brought under control. The best the ‘it’ can hope for is ‘sublimation’, or being bent to the will of the ego.

Jungians, to the extent they get Jung’s breakthrough, treat unconscious processes as a ‘thou’ another subject, with consciousness, wisdom, creativity. This may well be a difficult set of subjects to relate to, as it is made other by the ego’s suppression or misperception, but they can be respected, successfully dialogued with and lived with. They will never be exhausted, or made entirely clear; in short unconscious processes are thous.

Buber’s distinction helps us understand this difference, and it is irrelevant whether Buber and Jung got on, or understood each other, shadow processes happen to the best of us…

Without having done the research I would hypothesise that many (but not all) therapies treat internal processes as ‘it’s, to be mastered, released or accommodated to…

Existentialism: de Beauvoir

We can see a similar issue arise in de Beauvoirs ethics, and the distinction between the ‘free’ and the ‘determined’, or the ‘for-itself’ and ‘the in-itself’. Recognising oneself and the other as free opens the possibility of an I-thou relationship. To be ethical, one opens consciousness to open the freedom of the other. However, towards the determined, we appear to have no necessary care, no requirement to be open or to open, it is merely an ‘it’, something beyond relationship. It can be subject to instrumentalism, even as it escapes because of its complexity.

Where de Beauvoir adds to Buber is in asserting the ambiguities of response, of relationships, of situations, and the impossibility of always being able to produce the results we might desire, or of even deciding what is ethical in particular situations. But we can still ask, if we can behave ethically to an it? An it is not an equal. Therefore if there are defined its in the world we can attempt, but sometimes fail, to bend them to our wills. We may not have to respect their freedom or unknown way of operating.

An ethics may need to recognise that determining that something is determined it, is ambiguous at best.

Politics of Environmentalism

It seems obvious that, in Australia at least, the problems for the two main parties are that they are not able to conceive of ecology as a thou, which they can have a serious relationship with. For them ecology is an it, to be manipulated, exploited and subject to the will – or rather to the fantasies of will. Thus they fantasise, we can sell coal and gas and cut emissions. They fantasise that the world will not bite back and that they have plenty of time. They fantasise that Carbon Capture and Storage will have to work in time. They don’t really accept that the world could change – they fantasise they world is inert, a dead ‘it’, rather than a complex subject which responds to provocation in ways of which we are uncertain in advance. There is no sense, in our political discourse, that we need to establish a friendly relationship to ecology, an open relationship to ecology, or even a learning relationship with ecology. They act as if we should be the masters of it, and that ecology is an it. There is little recognition of mutuality.

With this view, we will never establish a mutually beneficial relationship. We can only head for disaster….

The tragedy is, that I doubt that any indigenous person, with their roots still in country, would need to be told any of this. They would already know much more, much better than me, and be able to ‘say’ much more if we could listen, or they might ask us to listen to the world as thou, because it seems obvious, it consists of many thous. That way we might come to learn.

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